"There are always ways, and i know Tyler takes taking things seriously religiously seriously"
? Just my repetitive grammar? Shucks. On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 8:37 PM, Frederik Nnaji <frederik.nn...@gmail.com>wrote: > Yes Luke, it's a religious one, i agree.. > > On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 05:15, Luke Morton > <luke.mor...@internode.on.net>wrote: > >> "Cleaned up and optimised"; sounds like a good idea. How would you do >> that for the gcalctool menus? (They seem pretty good to me.) >> >> General comments: >> (Pertaining to the removal of menus and replacement with toolbar menus >> as mentioned in your blog post.) >> >> 1. Menus provide access to functions that might be otherwise obscured, >> infrequently used or hard to access--especially for people who cannot >> use pointing devices. >> >> For example, I can tell that if I want to insert something into this >> email I can press Alt+I to get the insert menu, even though I've never >> used it before. If that menu were represented by an icon in a toolbar, >> how would I get to it without having to tab through the entire >> interface? >> > > mousekeys? > Hah, no, indeed, it's an accessibility thing. You don't want to live your > life on TAB. > For mouseless situations, this is a secure fallback that every app designer > can choose to include. > > >> >> 2. Menus provide a convenient reference list of keyboard accelerators. >> If that menu were represented by an icon in a toolbar, how would I get >> to it without having to tab through the entire interface? >> >> Take gcalctool for example. If it didn't have a menu, and you couldn't >> use your mouse, how would you switch to a different mode? Quit the >> application? Input an ASCII character? >> >> 3. A menu by itself takes up less space than a toolbar by itself >> >> Removing the menu in gcalctool in the same way that Nautilus-Elementary >> removes the menu would mean that we'd have to add a toolbar for the >> functions that have no-where else to go. (I don't think this is >> particularly important though.) >> None of these are absolute barriers to your idea, but they are things >> that need to be considered/resolved. >> > > Before we remove anything that works perfectly already, so i agree with > Luke, we should consider wrapping something forgiving around it. There are > always ways, and i know Tyler takes taking things seriously religiously > seriously :D > > _______________________________________________ > Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana > Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net > Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana > More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp > >
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