Yes Luke, it's a religious one, i agree.. On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 05:15, Luke Morton <luke.mor...@internode.on.net>wrote:
> "Cleaned up and optimised"; sounds like a good idea. How would you do > that for the gcalctool menus? (They seem pretty good to me.) > > General comments: > (Pertaining to the removal of menus and replacement with toolbar menus > as mentioned in your blog post.) > > 1. Menus provide access to functions that might be otherwise obscured, > infrequently used or hard to access--especially for people who cannot > use pointing devices. > > For example, I can tell that if I want to insert something into this > email I can press Alt+I to get the insert menu, even though I've never > used it before. If that menu were represented by an icon in a toolbar, > how would I get to it without having to tab through the entire > interface? > mousekeys? Hah, no, indeed, it's an accessibility thing. You don't want to live your life on TAB. For mouseless situations, this is a secure fallback that every app designer can choose to include. > > 2. Menus provide a convenient reference list of keyboard accelerators. > If that menu were represented by an icon in a toolbar, how would I get > to it without having to tab through the entire interface? > > Take gcalctool for example. If it didn't have a menu, and you couldn't > use your mouse, how would you switch to a different mode? Quit the > application? Input an ASCII character? > > 3. A menu by itself takes up less space than a toolbar by itself > > Removing the menu in gcalctool in the same way that Nautilus-Elementary > removes the menu would mean that we'd have to add a toolbar for the > functions that have no-where else to go. (I don't think this is > particularly important though.) > None of these are absolute barriers to your idea, but they are things > that need to be considered/resolved. > Before we remove anything that works perfectly already, so i agree with Luke, we should consider wrapping something forgiving around it. There are always ways, and i know Tyler takes taking things seriously religiously seriously :D
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