Peter H-B: Okay, since you volunteered (and know more about producing good graphics than I do), you're in charge of this project. Thank you!

It would be good to get Dick, Robyn, and any other volunteers involved, too: training us all to do the graphics properly would be as much a contribution as doing them all properly yourself. Which reminds me, we need to produce a "how-to" for our writers, which would also be useful for people working at the main OOo site too.

I suggest each person working on this just pick a book and go through the chapters looking for figures that include drawing objects that have not been made into a single image and fixing them. Peter, I assume you are doing that for the Impress Guide.

BTW, I've found that many figures fool me into thinking they are single images, because they have been "grouped", but those fall apart when exported. A quick way to locate the problem figures is to export a chapter into HTML and see which images break up, though I'm sure there are other ways to find them fairly quickly.

Once you've fixed the problem figures, you can replace them into the chapter, then upload the chapter to the Feedback folder for the book, as Peter has been doing for the Impress Guide.

On a related topic: some images are just too big to be suitable for the docs. They either don't fit the page, or they waste a lot of space for no useful reason. This is even more noticeable on the smaller pages used for the printed copies of the book: some images that fit fine on full-size paper must be reduced to fit on the smaller pages. That is why I resized a lot of them while editing the chapters.

Peter, I haven't yet had a chance to look at the changes you've made in the Impress Guide, so I don't know if there are still any images that I consider too big; but I hope to get to those chapters this weekend and I'll let you know if I find any that I think are a problem.

And again on graphics: please, everyone, choose combinations of colours (especially background colours) that print out well in black-and-white. Otherwise I have to redo those images for the printed books. I will compile a list of problem images as I come across them.

Lastly, for other writers and reviewers: when working on drafts, I think it's perfectly acceptable to use the quick-and-dirty techniques (including OOo's drawing objects) to produce figures. For me at least, doing figures properly takes too long when drafting material: I'm focused on other things. Where I have failed is in not going back and fixing the pictures properly when the document is otherwise ready for publishing. I'm so glad that Peter H-B is spending the time (and sharing his knowledge) to improve that side of the docs.

--Jean

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