Hi Alanna,
I read the document and comments here, I approve the publication too.
SY,Boris
On Thursday, March 6, 2025 at 04:46:23 PM GMT+3, <zhu.ch...@zte.com.cn>
wrote:
Approve its publication.
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Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9757
<draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-40> for your review
Hi Authors and John (AD),
Thank you for your replies. John’s approval has been noted on the AUTH48 status
page, and we have updated the files accordingly.
Please note that we have a follow-up query:
> 4) <!--[rfced] Does "their" refer to "PCECC-CAPABILITY sub-TLV"? If yes, may
>we update "their" to "its" for clarity?
>
> Original:
> [RFC9050] defined the PCECC-CAPABILITY sub-TLV to exchange
> information about their PCECC capability.
>
> Perhaps:
> [RFC9050] defined the PCECC-CAPABILITY sub-TLV to exchange
> information about its PCECC capability.
> -->[WAJ]: No, here "their" refers to the PCEP Speakers (PCE or PCC). Then,
>keep the previous statement is better.
) To further clarify “their”, may we update the text as follows?
Perhaps:
[RFC9050] defined the PCECC-CAPABILITY sub-TLV to exchange
information about the PCEP speakers' PCECC capability.
...
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> On Mar 4, 2025, at 10:32 AM, John Scudder <jgs=40juniper....@dmarc.ietf.org>
>wrote:
>
> Yes, regarding #18, please remove the note as requested in the body text.
>
> Thanks,
>
> —John
>
>> On Mar 3, 2025, at 3:19 PM, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote:
>>
>> Authors and *AD,
>>
>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as
>> necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
>>
>> *AD, please see #18.
>>
>> 1) <!--[rfced] How may we clarify the latter part of this sentence?
>>
>> Original:
>> These extensions empower a PCE to calculate and manage paths
>> specifically for native IP networks, expand PCEP's capabilities
>> beyond its traditional use in MPLS and GMPLS networks.
>>
>> Perhaps:
>> These extensions empower a PCE to calculate and manage paths
>> specifically for native IP networks, thereby expanding PCEP's
>> capabilities beyond its traditional use in MPLS and GMPLS networks.
>> -->
>>
>>
>> 2) <!--[rfced] To avoid awkward hyphenation, may we update the text
>> below as follows?
>>
>> Original:
>> [RFC8821] describes the architecture and solution philosophy for the
>> E2E traffic assurance in the Native IP network via multiple Border
>> Gateway Protocol (BGP) sessions-based solution.
>>
>> Perhaps:
>> [RFC8821] describes the architecture and solution philosophy for the
>> E2E traffic assurance in the Native IP network via a solution based
>> on multiple Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) sessions.
>> -->
>>
>>
>> 3) <!-- [rfced] This sentence implies that the status of this
>> document could change in the future. May we update the text to state
>> that a new document would be published in order to update the status?
>>
>> Original:
>> Feedback from deployments will be
>> crucial in determining whether this specification should advance
>> from Experimental to the IETF Standards Track.
>>
>> Perhaps:
>> Feedback from deployments will be
>> crucial in determining whether a future document will be published
>> to advance this specification from Experimental to the IETF Standards Track.
>> -->
>>
>>
>> 4) <!--[rfced] Does "their" refer to "PCECC-CAPABILITY sub-TLV"? If
>> yes, may we update "their" to "its" for clarity?
>>
>> Original:
>> [RFC9050] defined the PCECC-CAPABILITY sub-TLV to exchange
>> information about their PCECC capability.
>>
>> Perhaps:
>> [RFC9050] defined the PCECC-CAPABILITY sub-TLV to exchange
>> information about its PCECC capability.
>> -->
>>
>>
>> 5) <!--[rfced] To improve readability, may we update this sentence as
>> follows? Please review and ensure that the suggested text does not
>> alter the intended meaning.
>>
>> Original:
>> The PCECC Native IP TE solution uses the existing PCE Label Switched
>> Path (LSP) Initiate Request message (PCInitiate) [RFC8281], and PCE
>> Report message (PCRpt) [RFC8231] to accomplish the multiple BGP
>> sessions establishment, E2E Native-IP TE path deployment, and route
>> prefixes advertisement among different BGP sessions.
>>
>> Perhaps:
>> The PCECC Native IP TE solution uses the existing PCE Label Switched
>> Path (LSP) Initiate Request message (PCInitiate) [RFC8281] and PCE
>> Report message (PCRpt) [RFC8231] to establish multiple BGP sessions,
>> deploy the E2E Native-IP TE path, and advertise route prefixes among
>> different BGP sessions.
>> -->
>>
>>
>> 6) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "type" attribute of each sourcecode
>> element in the XML file to ensure correctness. If the current list of
>> preferred values for "type"
>> (https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.rfc-editor.org/rpc/wiki/doku
>>
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>> ) does not contain an applicable type, then feel free to let us know.
>> Also, it is acceptable to leave the "type" attribute not set.
>> -->
>>
>>
>> 7) <!--[rfced] May we make the following sentences more concise by
>> removing "instance of"? Please review the suggested text and let us
>> know if this change alters the intended meaning.
>>
>> Original:
>> If there is
>> more than one instance of BPI, EPR or PPA object present, the
>> receiving PCC MUST send a PCErr message with Error-type=19 (Invalid
>> Operation) and Error-value=22 (Only one BPI, EPR or PPA object can
>> be included in this message).
>> ...
>> If there are
>> more than one instance of BPI, EPR or PPA objects present, the
>> receiving PCE MUST send a PCErr message with Error-type=19 (Invalid
>> Operation) and Error-value=22 (Only one BPI, EPR or PPA object can
>> be included in this message).
>>
>> Perhaps:
>> If there is
>> more than one BPI, EPR, or PPA object present, the receiving PCC
>> MUST send a PCErr message with Error-type=19 (Invalid
>> Operation) and Error-value=22 (Only one BPI, EPR, or PPA object can
>> be included in this message).
>> ...
>> If there is
>> more than one BPI, EPR, or PPA object present, the receiving PCE
>> MUST send a PCErr message with Error-type=19 (Invalid
>> Operation) and Error-value=22 (Only one BPI, EPR, or PPA object can
>> be included in this message).
>> -->
>>
>>
>> 8) <!--[rfced] To avoid the repetition of "object", may we update the
>> sentence below?
>>
>> Original:
>> Furthermore, one, and only one, object among BPI, EPR or PPA object
>> MUST be present.
>>
>> Perhaps:
>> Furthermore, one and only one BPI, EPR, or PPA object MUST be present.
>> -->
>>
>>
>> 9) <!--[rfced] How may we clarify "to the same destination"?
>>
>> Original:
>> If there is traffic
>> from different attached points to the same destination coming into
>> the network, they could share the priority path which may not be the
>> initial desire.
>>
>> Perhaps:
>> If traffic is coming into the network from different attached points
>> but to the same destination, they could share the priority path,
>> which may not be the initial desire.
>> -->
>>
>>
>> 10) <!--[rfced] We don't see the term "IPinIP" in RFC 2003. Should
>> this be updated as "IP in IP"? Note that other RFCs generally use "IP-in-IP"
>> when referring to tunnels.
>>
>> We also see "IPnIP" in Table 8 - is this term the same as "IPinIP" or
>> different? Please let us know if/how these terms may be updated for
>> consistency.
>>
>> Original:
>> Section 6.4
>> For simplicity, the IPinIP tunnel type [RFC2003] is used between the
>> BGP peers by default.
>>
>> Section 7.2
>> Currently, only bit 7 (T bit) is defined. When the T bit is set,
>> the traffic SHOULD be sent in the IPinIP tunnel (Tunnel source is
>> Local IP Address, tunnel destination is Peer IP Address).
>>
>> Table 8
>> 7 | T (IPnIP) bit |
>> -->
>>
>>
>> 11) <!--[rfced] Per use elsewhere throughout the document, should "R flag"
>> be updated to "R bit"?
>>
>> Original:
>> To remove the Native-IP state from the PCC, the PCE MUST send
>> explicit CCI cleanup instructions for PPA, EPR and BPI objects
>> respectively with the R flag set in the SRP object.
>>
>> Perhaps:
>> To remove the Native-IP state from the PCC, the PCE MUST send
>> explicit CCI cleanup instructions for PPA, EPR, and BPI objects,
>> respectively, with the R bit set in the SRP object.
>> -->
>>
>>
>> 12) <!--[rfced] FYI - To match Sections 7.2 and 7.3, we have updated
>> the single sentence preceding Figures 14 and 15 in Section 7.4 to be
>> two sentences, one preceding each figure, respectively. Please review
>> and let us know of any objections.
>>
>> Original:
>> The format of the Peer Prefix Advertisement object body is as
>> follows:
>>
>> Current:
>> The format of the Peer Prefix Advertisement object body for IPv4 is
>> as follows:
>> ...
>> The format of the Peer Prefix Advertisement object body for IPv6 is
>> as follows:
>> -->
>>
>>
>> 13) <!-- [rfced] Table 1: Rather than have two tables with the same
>> information, may we point readers to Table 5 in the IANA
>> Considerations section as shown below?
>>
>> Current (Section 8):
>> An additional Error-Type and several Error-values are defined to
>> represent the errors related to the newly defined objects that are
>> related to Native IP TE procedures.
>>
>> Perhaps:
>> An additional Error-Type and several Error-values are defined to
>> represent the errors related to the newly defined objects that are
>> related to Native IP TE procedures. See Table 5 (Section 13.4) for
>> the newly defined Error-Type and Error-values.
>> -->
>>
>>
>> 14) <!--[rfced] To have a 1:1 matchup between the acronym and its
>> expansion, may we update "LSP-DB" as follows, i.e., remove "State" from the
>>expansion?
>>
>> Original:
>> ...treat the three newly defined objects (BPI, EPR and PPA)
>> associated with the same symbolic path name as the attribute of the
>> same path in the LSP-DB (LSP State Database).
>>
>> Perhaps:
>> ...treat the three newly defined objects (BPI, EPR, and PPA)
>> associated with the same symbolic path name as the attribute of the
>> same path in the LSP Database (LSP-DB).
>> -->
>>
>>
>> 15) <!--[rfced] Is the intended meaning that the mechanisms in this
>> document and the mechanisms listed in RFC 5440 do not imply any new
>> liveness detection and monitoring? If so, may we rephrase the text as
>> shown below for clarity?
>>
>> Original:
>> Mechanisms defined in this document do not imply any new liveness
>> detection and monitoring requirements in addition to those already
>> listed in [RFC5440].
>>
>> Perhaps:
>> Mechanisms defined in this document, and those already listed in
>> [RFC5440], do not imply any new liveness detection and monitoring
>> requirements.
>> -->
>>
>>
>> 16) <!--[rfced] Does "it" refer to a suitable default value? If so,
>> may we clarify the text as follows?
>>
>> Original:
>> If suitable default values as discussed in Section 9 aren't enough
>> and securing the BGP transport is required(for example, the TCP-AO
>> [RFC5925], it can be provided through the addition of optional TLVs
>> to the BGP Peer Info object that conveys the necessary additional
>> information (for example, a key chain [RFC8177]name).
>>
>> Perhaps:
>> If the suitable default values discussed in Section 9 aren't enough
>> and securing the BGP transport is required (for example, by using
>> TCP-AO [RFC5925]), a suitable value can be provided through the
>> addition of optional TLVs to the BGP Peer Info object that conveys
>> the necessary additional information (for example, a key chain
>> [RFC8177] name).
>> -->
>>
>>
>> 17) <!-- [rfced] We have included a clarification about the IANA text
>> below. In addition to reviewing it, please review all of the
>> IANA-related updates carefully and let us know if any further updates
>> are needed.
>>
>> ) FYI: In Table 4, we have added "Object-Type" to each name and have
>> added
>> "0: Reserved" accordingly to match the "PCEP Objects" registry (see
>><https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.iana.org/assignments/pcep/__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!ASsB8Ynp0YU98-bLgTxOlIP_d3X-IsZEDqbzQ7yOmzF20I4v0purcqhcKg6bApunKWWSozDrbpj6PX5NrI4xsQ$
>> >).
>> -->
>>
>>
>> 18) <!--[rfced] *AD - Per the following note left in the document by
>> the authors, we have removed the normative reference
>> [I-D.ietf-pce-iana-update]. Please review and approve of this update.
>>
>> Original:
>> Editorial Note (To be removed by RFC Editor): This experimental
>> track document is allocating a code point in the registry under the
>> standards action registry which is not allowed.
>> [I-D.ietf-pce-iana-update] updates the registration policy to IETF
>> review allowing for this allocation. Note that an early allocation
>> was made when the document was being progressed in the standards
>> track. At the time of publication, please remove this note and the
>> reference to [I-D.ietf-pce-iana-update].
>> -->
>>
>>
>> 19) <!-- [rfced] The following reference is not cited in the text.
>> Please let us know where it should be cited; otherwise, it will be
>> deleted from the references section.
>>
>> [RFC7942] Sheffer, Y. and A. Farrel, "Improving Awareness of Running
>> Code: The Implementation Status Section", BCP 205,
>> RFC 7942, DOI 10.17487/RFC7942, July 2016,
>>
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>> >.
>> -->
>>
>>
>> 20) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have added expansions for the following
>> abbreviations per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please
>> review each expansion in the document carefully to ensure correctness.
>>
>> Path Computation Client (PCC)
>> PCEP-specific LSP identifiers (PLSP-ID) TCP Authentication Option
>> (TCP-AO)
>> -->
>>
>>
>> 21) <!-- [rfced] Terminology
>>
>> a) Throughout the text, the following terminology appears to be used
>> inconsistently. Please review these occurrences and let us know
>> if/how they may be made consistent.
>>
>> Local/Peer IP Address vs. Local/Peer IP address
>>
>> Native IP vs. Native-IP vs. native IP vs. NATIVE IP
>> [Note: These differences are also found within the IANA registries.]
>>
>> Peer IPv4 Address vs. peer IPv4 address Peer IPv6 Address vs. peer
>> IPv6 address
>>
>> b) May we update the following terms to the form on the right in the
>> running text for consistency?
>>
>> central controller instructions > Central Controller Instructions
>> (per RFC 9050) code point > codepoint (per RFC 9050 and to match the
>> companion document) Error-type > Error-Type Error-Value > Error-value
>> Object type, object type > Object-Type PCE-Initiated > PCE-initiated
>> (per RFC 8281) PCEP Speakers > PCEP speakers PCInitiate Message >
>> PCInitiate message state synchronization > State Synchronization (per
>> RFCs 8232 and 9050) Symbolic Path Name > symbolic path name (per RFC
>> 8232) Remote Peer > remote peer (per RFC 8232)
>>
>> PCEP Object > PCEP object
>> BPI Object > BPI object
>> CCI Object > CCI object
>>
>> c) We note three instances of "PCEP protocol". Since this reads as
>> "Path Computation Element Communication Protocol protocol" when
>> expanded, may we remove "protocol" when it occurs after "PCEP"?
>>
>> d) FYI: We note "Central Control Dynamic Routing" vs. "Centralized
>> Control Dynamic Routing" for the expansion of "CCDR". We have updated
>> the text to reflect the latter form per use in RFCs 8735 and 8821.
>>
>> Central Control Dynamic Routing > Centralized Control Dynamic Routing
>> -->
>>
>>
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>>
>> For example, please consider whether the following should be updated:
>> - traditional
>> - native
>> -->
>>
>>
>> Thank you.
>>
>> RFC Editor/ap/kc
>>
>>
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>> RFC9757 (draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-40)
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>> Title : Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP)
>>Extensions for Native IP Networks
>> Author(s) : A. Wang, B. Khasanov, S. Fang, R. Tan, C. Zhu
>> WG Chair(s) : Julien Meuric, Dhruv Dhody
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