Yes, regarding #18, please remove the note as requested in the body text. 

Thanks,

—John

> On Mar 3, 2025, at 3:19 PM, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote:
> 
> Authors and *AD,
> 
> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as
> necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
> 
> *AD, please see #18.
> 
> 1) <!--[rfced] How may we clarify the latter part of this sentence?
> 
> Original:
>   These extensions empower a PCE to calculate
>   and manage paths specifically for native IP networks, expand PCEP's
>   capabilities beyond its traditional use in MPLS and GMPLS networks.
> 
> Perhaps:
>   These extensions empower a PCE to calculate
>   and manage paths specifically for native IP networks, thereby expanding
>   PCEP's capabilities beyond its traditional use in MPLS and GMPLS networks.
> -->
> 
> 
> 2) <!--[rfced] To avoid awkward hyphenation, may we update the text below
> as follows?
> 
> Original:
>   [RFC8821] describes the architecture and solution philosophy for the E2E
>   traffic assurance in the Native IP network via multiple Border
>   Gateway Protocol (BGP) sessions-based solution.
> 
> Perhaps:
>   [RFC8821] describes the architecture and solution philosophy for the E2E
>   traffic assurance in the Native IP network via a solution based on
>   multiple Border Gateway Protocol (BGP) sessions.
> -->
> 
> 
> 3) <!-- [rfced] This sentence implies that the status of this document
> could change in the future. May we update the text to state that
> a new document would be published in order to update the status?
> 
> Original:
>   Feedback from deployments will be
>   crucial in determining whether this specification should advance from
>   Experimental to the IETF Standards Track.
> 
> Perhaps:
>   Feedback from deployments will be
>   crucial in determining whether a future document will be published to
>   advance this specification from Experimental to the IETF Standards Track.
> -->
> 
> 
> 4) <!--[rfced] Does "their" refer to "PCECC-CAPABILITY sub-TLV"? If
> yes, may we update "their" to "its" for clarity?
> 
> Original:
>   [RFC9050] defined the PCECC-CAPABILITY sub-TLV to exchange
>   information about their PCECC capability.
> 
> Perhaps:
>   [RFC9050] defined the PCECC-CAPABILITY sub-TLV to exchange
>   information about its PCECC capability.
> -->
> 
> 
> 5) <!--[rfced] To improve readability, may we update this sentence as
> follows? Please review and ensure that the suggested text does not alter
> the intended meaning.
> 
> Original:
>   The PCECC Native IP TE solution uses the existing PCE Label Switched
>   Path (LSP) Initiate Request message (PCInitiate) [RFC8281], and PCE
>   Report message (PCRpt) [RFC8231] to accomplish the multiple BGP
>   sessions establishment, E2E Native-IP TE path deployment, and route
>   prefixes advertisement among different BGP sessions.
> 
> Perhaps:
>   The PCECC Native IP TE solution uses the existing PCE Label Switched
>   Path (LSP) Initiate Request message (PCInitiate) [RFC8281] and PCE
>   Report message (PCRpt) [RFC8231] to establish multiple BGP sessions,
>   deploy the E2E Native-IP TE path, and advertise route prefixes
>   among different BGP sessions.
> -->
> 
> 
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> Also, it is acceptable to leave the "type" attribute not set.
> -->
> 
> 
> 7) <!--[rfced] May we make the following sentences more concise by removing
> "instance of"? Please review the suggested text and let us know if this
> change alters the intended meaning.
> 
> Original:
>   If there is
>   more than one instance of BPI, EPR or PPA object present, the
>   receiving PCC MUST send a PCErr message with Error-type=19 (Invalid
>   Operation) and Error-value=22 (Only one BPI, EPR or PPA object can be
>   included in this message).
>   ...
>   If there are
>   more than one instance of BPI, EPR or PPA objects present, the
>   receiving PCE MUST send a PCErr message with Error-type=19 (Invalid
>   Operation) and Error-value=22 (Only one BPI, EPR or PPA object can be
>   included in this message).
> 
> Perhaps:
>   If there is
>   more than one BPI, EPR, or PPA object present, the
>   receiving PCC MUST send a PCErr message with Error-type=19 (Invalid
>   Operation) and Error-value=22 (Only one BPI, EPR, or PPA object can be
>   included in this message).
>   ...
>   If there is
>   more than one BPI, EPR, or PPA object present, the
>   receiving PCE MUST send a PCErr message with Error-type=19 (Invalid
>   Operation) and Error-value=22 (Only one BPI, EPR, or PPA object can be
>   included in this message).
> -->
> 
> 
> 8) <!--[rfced] To avoid the repetition of "object", may we update the
> sentence below?
> 
> Original:
>   Furthermore, one, and only one, object among BPI, EPR or PPA object
>   MUST be present.
> 
> Perhaps:
>   Furthermore, one and only one BPI, EPR, or PPA object MUST be present.
> -->
> 
> 
> 9) <!--[rfced] How may we clarify "to the same destination"?
> 
> Original:
>   If there is traffic
>   from different attached points to the same destination coming into
>   the network, they could share the priority path which may not be the
>   initial desire.
> 
> Perhaps:
>   If traffic is coming into the network from different attached points
>   but to the same destination, they could share the priority path,
>   which may not be the initial desire.
> -->
> 
> 
> 10) <!--[rfced] We don't see the term "IPinIP" in RFC 2003. Should this be
> updated as "IP in IP"? Note that other RFCs generally use "IP-in-IP"
> when referring to tunnels.
> 
> We also see "IPnIP" in Table 8 - is this term the same as "IPinIP" or
> different? Please let us know if/how these terms may be updated for
> consistency.
> 
> Original:
> Section 6.4
>   For simplicity, the IPinIP tunnel type [RFC2003] is used between the
>   BGP peers by default.
> 
> Section 7.2
>   Currently, only bit 7 (T bit) is defined.  When the T bit is set,
>   the traffic SHOULD be sent in the IPinIP tunnel (Tunnel source
>   is Local IP Address, tunnel destination is Peer IP Address).
> 
> Table 8
>   7   | T (IPnIP) bit |
> -->
> 
> 
> 11) <!--[rfced] Per use elsewhere throughout the document, should "R flag"
> be updated to "R bit"?
> 
> Original:
>   To remove the Native-IP state from the PCC, the PCE MUST send
>   explicit CCI cleanup instructions for PPA, EPR and BPI objects
>   respectively with the R flag set in the SRP object.
> 
> Perhaps:
>   To remove the Native-IP state from the PCC, the PCE MUST send
>   explicit CCI cleanup instructions for PPA, EPR, and BPI objects,
>   respectively, with the R bit set in the SRP object.
> -->
> 
> 
> 12) <!--[rfced] FYI - To match Sections 7.2 and 7.3, we have updated
> the single sentence preceding Figures 14 and 15 in Section 7.4 to
> be two sentences, one preceding each figure, respectively. Please
> review and let us know of any objections.
> 
> Original:
>   The format of the Peer Prefix Advertisement object body is as
>   follows:
> 
> Current:
>   The format of the Peer Prefix Advertisement object body for IPv4
>   is as follows:
>   ...
>   The format of the Peer Prefix Advertisement object body for IPv6
>   is as follows:
> -->
> 
> 
> 13) <!-- [rfced] Table 1: Rather than have two tables with the same
> information, may we point readers to Table 5 in the IANA
> Considerations section as shown below?
> 
> Current (Section 8):
>   An additional Error-Type and several Error-values are defined to
>   represent the errors related to the newly defined objects that are
>   related to Native IP TE procedures.
> 
> Perhaps:
>   An additional Error-Type and several Error-values are defined to
>   represent the errors related to the newly defined objects that are
>   related to Native IP TE procedures. See Table 5 (Section 13.4) for
>   the newly defined Error-Type and Error-values.
> -->
> 
> 
> 14) <!--[rfced] To have a 1:1 matchup between the acronym and its expansion, 
> may
> we update "LSP-DB" as follows, i.e., remove "State" from the expansion?
> 
> Original:
>   ...treat the three newly defined objects (BPI, EPR and PPA) associated
>   with the same symbolic path name as the attribute of the same path in
>   the LSP-DB (LSP State Database).
> 
> Perhaps:
>   ...treat the three newly defined objects (BPI, EPR, and PPA) associated
>   with the same symbolic path name as the attribute of the same path in
>   the LSP Database (LSP-DB).
> -->
> 
> 
> 15) <!--[rfced] Is the intended meaning that the mechanisms in this
> document and the mechanisms listed in RFC 5440 do not imply any
> new liveness detection and monitoring? If so, may we rephrase the
> text as shown below for clarity?
> 
> Original:
>   Mechanisms defined in this document do not imply any new liveness
>   detection and monitoring requirements in addition to those already
>   listed in [RFC5440].
> 
> Perhaps:
>   Mechanisms defined in this document, and those already listed in
>   [RFC5440], do not imply any new liveness detection and monitoring
>   requirements.
> -->
> 
> 
> 16) <!--[rfced] Does "it" refer to a suitable default value? If so, may we
> clarify the text as follows?
> 
> Original:
>   If suitable default values as discussed in Section 9 aren't enough
>   and securing the BGP transport is required(for example, the TCP-AO
>   [RFC5925], it can be provided through the addition of optional TLVs
>   to the BGP Peer Info object that conveys the necessary additional
>   information (for example, a key chain [RFC8177]name).
> 
> Perhaps:
>   If the suitable default values discussed in Section 9 aren't enough
>   and securing the BGP transport is required (for example, by using
>   TCP-AO [RFC5925]), a suitable value can be provided through the
>   addition of optional TLVs to the BGP Peer Info object that conveys
>   the necessary additional information (for example, a key chain
>   [RFC8177] name).
> -->
> 
> 
> 17) <!-- [rfced] We have included a clarification about the IANA text
> below. In addition to reviewing it, please review all of the
> IANA-related updates carefully and let us know if any further
> updates are needed.
> 
> ) FYI: In Table 4, we have added "Object-Type" to each name and have added
> "0: Reserved" accordingly to match the "PCEP Objects" registry (see 
> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.iana.org/assignments/pcep/__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!ASsB8Ynp0YU98-bLgTxOlIP_d3X-IsZEDqbzQ7yOmzF20I4v0purcqhcKg6bApunKWWSozDrbpj6PX5NrI4xsQ$
>  >).
> -->
> 
> 
> 18) <!--[rfced] *AD - Per the following note left in the document by the 
> authors,
> we have removed the normative reference [I-D.ietf-pce-iana-update]. Please
> review and approve of this update.
> 
> Original:
>   Editorial Note (To be removed by RFC Editor): This experimental track
>   document is allocating a code point in the registry under the
>   standards action registry which is not allowed.
>   [I-D.ietf-pce-iana-update] updates the registration policy to IETF
>   review allowing for this allocation.  Note that an early allocation
>   was made when the document was being progressed in the standards
>   track.  At the time of publication, please remove this note and the
>   reference to [I-D.ietf-pce-iana-update].
> -->
> 
> 
> 19) <!-- [rfced] The following reference is not cited in the text.  Please let
> us know where it should be cited; otherwise, it will be deleted from the
> references section.
> 
>   [RFC7942]  Sheffer, Y. and A. Farrel, "Improving Awareness of Running
>              Code: The Implementation Status Section", BCP 205,
>              RFC 7942, DOI 10.17487/RFC7942, July 2016,
>              
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> 
> 
> 20) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have added expansions for the following 
> abbreviations
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> 
> Path Computation Client (PCC)
> PCEP-specific LSP identifiers (PLSP-ID)
> TCP Authentication Option (TCP-AO)
> -->
> 
> 
> 21) <!-- [rfced] Terminology
> 
> a) Throughout the text, the following terminology appears to be used
> inconsistently. Please review these occurrences and let us know if/how
> they may be made consistent.
> 
> Local/Peer IP Address vs. Local/Peer IP address
> 
> Native IP vs. Native-IP vs. native IP vs. NATIVE IP
>  [Note: These differences are also found within the
>  IANA registries.]
> 
> Peer IPv4 Address vs. peer IPv4 address
> Peer IPv6 Address vs. peer IPv6 address
> 
> b) May we update the following terms to the form on the right in the
> running text for consistency?
> 
> central controller instructions > Central Controller Instructions (per RFC 
> 9050)
> code point > codepoint (per RFC 9050 and to match the companion document)
> Error-type > Error-Type
> Error-Value > Error-value
> Object type, object type > Object-Type
> PCE-Initiated > PCE-initiated (per RFC 8281)
> PCEP Speakers > PCEP speakers
> PCInitiate Message > PCInitiate message
> state synchronization > State Synchronization (per RFCs 8232 and 9050)
> Symbolic Path Name > symbolic path name (per RFC 8232)
> Remote Peer > remote peer (per RFC 8232)
> 
> PCEP Object > PCEP object
> BPI Object > BPI object
> CCI Object > CCI object
> 
> c) We note three instances of "PCEP protocol". Since this reads as
> "Path Computation Element Communication Protocol protocol" when
> expanded, may we remove "protocol" when it occurs after "PCEP"?
> 
> d) FYI: We note "Central Control Dynamic Routing" vs. "Centralized
> Control Dynamic Routing" for the expansion of "CCDR". We have
> updated the text to reflect the latter form per use in RFCs 8735
> and 8821.
> 
> Central Control Dynamic Routing > Centralized Control Dynamic Routing
> -->
> 
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> 
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> 
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> RFC9757 (draft-ietf-pce-pcep-extension-native-ip-40)
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> Title            : Path Computation Element Communication Protocol (PCEP) 
> Extensions for Native IP Networks
> Author(s)        : A. Wang, B. Khasanov, S. Fang, R. Tan, C. Zhu
> WG Chair(s)      : Julien Meuric, Dhruv Dhody
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