I somehow cannot find any traces of this email thread in my Outlook hence the 
late response. Thanks to Gunter for forwarding me this email.

A few nits:

   In certain scenarios, it is desirable to establish multicast states
   between two adjacent Layer 3 routers without forming a PIM
   neighborship.

We should remove the "adjacent layer 3" wording from the above. The very use 
case that led to this document involves routers *indirectly* connected by a 
BIER domain (which are composed of layer 3 routers) - we want to signal PIM 
states among non-adjacent routers over this PLI.

For the following:

   Since a PLI does not process PIM Hello messages, it also does not
   support the Join Attribute option in PIM Hello as specified in
   [RFC5384].  As such, PIM Light is unaware of its neighbor's
   capability to process Join Attributes and SHOULD NOT process a Join
   message containing a Join Attribute.

"process" is more on the receiving side. I think we're only talking about 
"sending" here, so should change the second "process" to "send".

   There are two cases in which a PLI can send and process a Join
   Attribute:

Remove "and process"?

   *  The Join Attribute must be configured with an appropriate Join
      Attribute type that the PLI is capable of processing as per the
      "PIM Join Attribute Types" registry [IANA-PIM-Attr-Types].

The above bullet does not read well. Perhaps change it to the following?

   *  The neighbors on the PLI are known, by means outside of the scope
       of this document, to be capable of processing the attribute.

The following:

   ... If a router
   supports PIM Light, arriving Join/Prune messages MUST be processed
   only when a PLI is enabled on an interface; otherwise, they MUST be
   dropped.

Could be changed to the following:

   Join/Prune messages not received from a PIM neighbor MUST be
   dropped unless PLI is enabled on the interface.

Other than that, I approve the changes.

Thanks.
Jeffrey


Juniper Business Use Only
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Hi Gunter and authors,

Gunter - Thanks for the response. We have marked your approval on the AUTH48 
status page for this document (see 
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 ).

All - Once Zhaohui Zhang approves the document, we can move forward in the 
publication process.

Best regards,
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> On Feb 19, 2025, at 10:03 PM, Gunter van de Velde (Nokia) 
> <gunter.van_de_ve...@nokia.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Yes, approved.
>
> My apologies for the delayed response. It got lost in a mountain of emails 
> and I accidently classified it overly fast.
>
> G/
>
> -----Original Message-----
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>
>> On Feb 12, 2025, at 4:17 PM, Mankamana Mishra (mankamis) 
>> <manka...@cisco.com> wrote:
>>
>> I approve the change . Looks good to me .
>> From: Rebecca VanRheenen <rvanrhee...@staff.rfc-editor.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2025 10:28:14 PM
>> To: Hooman Bidgoli (Nokia) <hooman.bidg...@nokia.com>; Mankamana
>> Mishra (mankamis) <manka...@cisco.com>; Stig Venaas (svenaas)
>> <sven...@cisco.com>; s...@cisco.com <s...@cisco.com>;
>> zzh...@juniper.com <zzh...@juniper.com>;
>> michael.mcbr...@futurewei.com <michael.mcbr...@futurewei.com>; Gunter
>> van de Velde (Nokia) <gunter.van_de_ve...@nokia.com>;
>> pim-...@ietf.org <pim-...@ietf.org>
>> Cc: RFC Editor <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org>; pim-cha...@ietf.org 
>> <pim-cha...@ietf.org>; zhang.zh...@zte.com.cn <zhang.zh...@zte.com.cn>; 
>> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>
>> Subject: [AD] Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9739 <draft-ietf-pim-light-11> for your 
>> review   Hi Hooman, other authors, and AD*,
>>
>> Hooman - Thanks for the quick reply. All of our questions have been 
>> addressed.
>>
>> All authors - Please review the document carefully to ensure satisfaction as 
>> we do not make changes once it has been published as an RFC. Contact us with 
>> any further updates or with your approval of the document in its current 
>> form. We will await approvals from each author prior to moving forward in 
>> the publication process.
>>
>> *Gunter, as AD, please review and approve the following changes, which are 
>> above editorial. These are best viewed in this diff file: 
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9739-auth48diff.html__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!BjYVaQwQLx4ecMZmEcDP0kZ2c2vcDHb47lBkMdMNzLaN094vUuLYUPoCUDRqUEXJkxxl4hAV4mw0nNKSIPpAKlkGodJHBqhy$
>>  .
>>
>> - Change from “must” to “MUST” in last sentence of first paragraph in
>> Section 3.5 (corresponds with “MUST” in previous sentence)
>> - Change in last sentence of second paragraph in Section 3.5
>> - Change in second paragraph in Section 5 (author explanation: I
>> think we should remove "PIM-SSM and" here. PIM-SM Join/Prune messages
>> are also used both for SSM and not SSM and the security implications
>> are the same.)
>>
>> — FILES (please refresh) —
>>
>> Updated XML file:
>>
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>> Updated output files:
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>> changes where text is moved or deleted)
>>
>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
>>
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9739
>> __;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!BjYVaQwQLx4ecMZmEcDP0kZ2c2vcDHb47lBkMdMNzLaN094vUuLY
>> UPoCUDRqUEXJkxxl4hAV4mw0nNKSIPpAKlkGob2FS0M2$
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>> Thank you,
>>
>> RFC Editor/rv
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 12, 2025, at 12:59 PM, Hooman Bidgoli (Nokia) 
>>> <hooman.bidg...@nokia.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello
>>>
>>> Inline
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Hooman
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Rebecca VanRheenen <rvanrhee...@staff.rfc-editor.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, February 12, 2025 1:29 PM
>>> To: Hooman Bidgoli (Nokia) <hooman.bidg...@nokia.com>; Mankamana
>>> Mishra (mankamis) <mankamis=40cisco....@dmarc.ietf.org>; Stig Venaas
>>> (svenaas) <sven...@cisco.com>; s...@cisco.com; zzh...@juniper.com;
>>> michael.mcbr...@futurewei.com
>>> Cc: RFC Editor <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org>; pim-...@ietf.org;
>>> pim-cha...@ietf.org; zhang.zh...@zte.com.cn; Gunter van de Velde
>>> (Nokia) <gunter.van_de_ve...@nokia.com>;
>>> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org; Rebecca VanRheenen
>>> <rvanrhee...@staff.rfc-editor.org>
>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9739 <draft-ietf-pim-light-11> for
>>> your review
>>>
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>>> Hi Hooman, Stig, and Mankamana,
>>>
>>> Thank you for your replies; we have updated the document accordingly (see 
>>> files below). We have two followup questions:
>>>
>>> A) Please confirm “network” is okay in these sentences. We ask because we 
>>> see "BIER domain" (rather than “BIER network”) elsewhere in the document.
>>>
>>> Current:
>>> ...such as Bit Index Explicit Replication (BIER) networks  that
>>> connect two or more PIM domains.
>>> ...
>>> An example is a Bit Index Explicit
>>> Replication (BIER) [RFC8279] network connecting multiple PIM
>>> domains, where PIM Join/Prune messages are tunneled via BIER as
>>> specified in [BIER-PIM].
>>>
>>> HB> I think in this paragraph it is fine to say BIER network connecting 
>>> multiple PIM domains.
>>>
>>> B) The following was missed in question #21. Should the capitalization of 
>>> this term be consistent? If so, let us know which form to use.
>>>
>>> DR Election vs. DR election
>>> HB> lol this is a though one 😊 looking at RFC 7761 it is "DR election" 90% 
>>> of time but one location it says "DR Election"
>>> HB> lets go with "DR election" please
>>>
>>> — FILES (please refresh) —
>>>
>>> HB> sorry what do you mean by refresh? Is there action here for the 
>>> authors? Or we should just review it.
>>> Updated XML file:
>>>
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>>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
>>>
>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc973
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>>> Thank you,
>>>
>>> RFC Editor/rv
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Feb 11, 2025, at 5:00 PM, Mankamana Mishra (mankamis) 
>>>> <mankamis=40cisco....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Changes looks good to me.  From: Stig Venaas (svenaas)
>>>> <sven...@cisco.com>
>>>> Date: Tuesday, February 11, 2025 at 4:15 PM
>>>> To: Hooman Bidgoli (Nokia) <hooman.bidg...@nokia.com>,
>>>> rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org>,
>>>> s...@cisco.com <s...@cisco.com>, Mankamana Mishra (mankamis)
>>>> <manka...@cisco.com>, zzh...@juniper.com <zzh...@juniper.com>,
>>>> michael.mcbr...@futurewei.com <michael.mcbr...@futurewei.com>
>>>> Cc: pim-...@ietf.org <pim-...@ietf.org>, pim-cha...@ietf.org
>>>> <pim-cha...@ietf.org>, zhang.zh...@zte.com.cn
>>>> <zhang.zh...@zte.com.cn>, Gunter van de Velde (Nokia)
>>>> <gunter.van_de_ve...@nokia.com>, auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
>>>> <auth48archive@rfc-editor.org>
>>>> Subject: RE: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9739 <draft-ietf-pim-light-11> for
>>>> your review Hi RFC Editor and Hooman
>>>>
>>>> Please see my comments inline.
>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: Hooman Bidgoli (Nokia) <hooman.bidg...@nokia.com>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2025 3:10 PM
>>>>> To: rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org; s...@cisco.com; Mankamana Mishra
>>>>> (mankamis) <manka...@cisco.com>; zzh...@juniper.com;
>>>>> michael.mcbr...@futurewei.com
>>>>> Cc: pim-...@ietf.org; pim-cha...@ietf.org; zhang.zh...@zte.com.cn;
>>>>> Gunter van de Velde (Nokia) <gunter.van_de_ve...@nokia.com>;
>>>>> auth48archive@rfc- editor.org
>>>>> Subject: RE: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9739 <draft-ietf-pim-light-11> for
>>>>> your review
>>>>> Importance: High
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi All
>>>>>
>>>>> My comments Inline, thanks for detail suggestions!
>>>>> Co-authors any comments on my suggestions pls?
>>>>>
>>>>> Do I need to submit a version 12 of draft with the changes?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Hooman
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org>
>>>>> Sent: Monday, February 10, 2025 11:45 PM
>>>>> To: Hooman Bidgoli (Nokia) <hooman.bidg...@nokia.com>;
>>>>> s...@cisco.com; manka...@cisco.com; zzh...@juniper.com;
>>>>> michael.mcbr...@futurewei.com
>>>>> Cc: rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org; pim-...@ietf.org;
>>>>> pim-cha...@ietf.org; zhang.zh...@zte.com.cn; Gunter van de Velde
>>>>> (Nokia) <gunter.van_de_ve...@nokia.com>;
>>>>> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9739 <draft-ietf-pim-light-11> for
>>>>> your review
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Authors,
>>>>>
>>>>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as
>>>>> necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> 2) <!-- [rfced] Abstract
>>>>>
>>>>> a) We updated the text starting with "which does not..." as
>>>>> follows to improve readability; please review and let us know any 
>>>>> concerns.
>>>>>
>>>>> Original:
>>>>>  This document specifies Protocol Independent Multicast Light (PIM
>>>>>  Light) and PIM Light Interface (PLI) which does not need PIM
>>>>> Hello  message to accept PIM Join/Prune messages.  PLI can signal
>>>>> multicast  states over networks that can not support full PIM
>>>>> neighbor  discovery, as an example BIER networks that are
>>>>> connecting two or  more PIM domains.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>  This document specifies Protocol Independent Multicast Light (PIM
>>>>> Light)  and the PIM Light Interface (PLI). A PLI does not need a
>>>>> PIM Hello  message to accept PIM Join/Prune messages, and it can
>>>>> signal multicast  states over networks that cannot support full
>>>>> PIM neighbor  discovery, such as Bit Index Explicit Replication
>>>>> (BIER) networks that connect two or  more PIM domains.
>>>>>
>>>>> HB> ok with this.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> b) Should "protocol and procedures" be updated to just "procedures"
>>>>> as in the Introduction?
>>>>>
>>>>> Original:
>>>>>  This document outlines the PIM
>>>>>  Light protocol and procedures to ensure loop-free multicast
>>>>> traffic  between two or more PIM Light routers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>  This document outlines PIM
>>>>>  Light procedures to ensure loop-free multicast traffic  between
>>>>> two or more PIM Light routers.
>>>>> HB> my vote is to keep it as protocol and procedures. The doc
>>>>> HB> talks about
>>>>> both.
>>>>> -->
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 3) <!-- [rfced] This is a sentence fragment. How may we update to
>>>>> make a complete sentence? Also, please confirm that "network" is
>>>>> intended here; elsewhere in the document, we see "BIER domain"
>>>>> rather than "BIER network".
>>>>>
>>>>> Original:
>>>>>  For example, in a Bit Index Explicit  Replication (BIER)
>>>>> [RFC8279] networks connecting multiple PIM  domains, where PIM
>>>>> Join/Prune messages are tunneled via BIER as  specified in
>>>>> [draft-ietf-bier-pim-signaling].
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>  An example is a Bit Index Explicit  Replication (BIER) [RFC8279]
>>>>> network connecting multiple PIM  domains, where PIM Join/Prune
>>>>> messages are tunneled via BIER as  specified in [BIER-PIM].
>>>>>
>>>>> HB> This text looks good.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or:
>>>>>  For example, in a Bit Index Explicit  Replication (BIER)
>>>>> [RFC8279] network connecting multiple PIM  domains, PIM Join/Prune
>>>>> messages are tunneled via BIER as  specified in
>>>>> [draft-ietf-bier-pim-signaling].
>>>>> -->
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 4) <!-- [rfced] Please clarify the text starting with "to
>>>>> ensure...". Also, is "reviver" correct? Or is "receiver" or something 
>>>>> else intended?
>>>>>
>>>>> Original:
>>>>>  As an example
>>>>>  the implementation should ensure that DR election is done on
>>>>> upstream  Redundant PIM routers that are at the edge of the PIM
>>>>> Light Domain to  ensure a single Designated Router to forward the
>>>>> PIM Join message  from reviver to the Source.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>  As an example,
>>>>>  the implementation should ensure that DR election is done on
>>>>> upstream  redundant PIM routers that are at the edge of the PIM
>>>>> Light domain to  ensure that a single DR forwards the PIM Join
>>>>> message  from the receiver to the source.
>>>>> HB> looks good.
>>>>> -->
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 5) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We reordered the list in Section 3.1 by type
>>>>> number as only one was out of order.
>>>>> -->
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 6) <!-- [rfced] Is the text starting with "from the..." needed here?
>>>>> Other entries in the list do not have such notes, and in the IANA
>>>>> registry (linked to in the text introducing this list), RFC 7761
>>>>> is listed as a reference for type 3. See 
>>>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Fwww.iana.org*2Fassignments*2Fpim-parameters*2F&data=05*7C02*7Cgunter.van_de_velde*40nokia.com*7Ce04cb0dd87754afdbba808dd51f40aa4*7C5d4717519675428d917b70f44f9630b0*7C0*7C0*7C638756831209717459*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=zJrRMvh77erna*2B*2FvEuiqwFc*2FmI8hmx8yus5AVfxnpFw*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!NEt6yMaO-gk!BjYVaQwQLx4ecMZmEcDP0kZ2c2vcDHb47lBkMdMNzLaN094vUuLYUPoCUDRqUEXJkxxl4hAV4mw0nNKSIPpAKlkGoQwYW7S0$
>>>>>  .
>>>>>
>>>>> Original:
>>>>>  1.  type 3 (Join/Prune) from the ALL-PIM-ROUTERS message types listed
>>>>>      in [RFC7761].
>>>>>
>>>>> Current:
>>>>>  *  type 3 (Join/Prune) (Note that this type is from the ALL-PIM-
>>>>>     ROUTERS message types listed in [RFC7761].)
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>  *  type 3 (Join/Prune)
>>>>>
>>>>> HB> I agree I am not sure why we are saying "from the
>>>>> HB> ALL-PIM-ROUTERS" as
>>>>> that is a multicast address.
>>>>> HB> I am ok with type 3 (Join/Prune). Unless there is a counter thought.
>>>>> -->
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 7) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We updated "13" to "13.0" to match the
>>>>> registry at 
>>>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Fwww.iana.org*2Fassignments*2Fpim-parameters*2F&data=05*7C02*7Cgunter.van_de_velde*40nokia.com*7Ce04cb0dd87754afdbba808dd51f40aa4*7C5d4717519675428d917b70f44f9630b0*7C0*7C0*7C638756831209752667*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=Vd3nxOSp9AkXlq14*2Ff*2B48VxeIkxFVeINF6MnC95IGEU*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJQ!!NEt6yMaO-gk!BjYVaQwQLx4ecMZmEcDP0kZ2c2vcDHb47lBkMdMNzLaN094vUuLYUPoCUDRqUEXJkxxl4hAV4mw0nNKSIPpAKlkGoSDbHT5w$
>>>>>  .
>>>>>
>>>>> Original:
>>>>>  type 13 (PIM Packed Null-Register)
>>>>>
>>>>> Updated:
>>>>>  type 13.0 (PIM Packed Null-Register)
>>>>> HB> ok
>>>>> -->
>>>>
>>>> This really must be 13.0 but it still says 13 in the new version and diffs 
>>>> provided.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 8) <!-- [rfced] Is "unicast destination IP" correct here, or
>>>>> should it be "unicast destination IP addresses" (with "addresses")?
>>>>>
>>>>> Original:
>>>>>  7.  Any future PIM message types that use unicast destination IP.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>  *  Any future PIM message types that use unicast destination IP 
>>>>> addresses.
>>>>> HB> ok with this suggestion.
>>>>> -->
>>>>
>>>> A given message will have only a single destination, so it seems a bit odd 
>>>> to me to use plural here. Maybe it can says "Any future PIM message types 
>>>> where the destination is a unicast IP address"?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> 9) <!-- [rfced] Will readers know what both instances of "it"
>>>>> refer to in the text "it SHOULD NOT process a join message containing it"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Original:
>>>>>  As such, PIM Light is unaware of its neighbor's  capability to
>>>>> process join attributes and it SHOULD NOT process a  join message
>>>>> containing it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>  As such, PIM Light is unaware of its neighbor's  capability to
>>>>> process join attributes and SHOULD NOT process a  Join message
>>>>> containing a join attribute.
>>>>> HB> ok with suggestion
>>>>> -->
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 10) <!-- [rfced] We note that the sentence below in Section 3.2.2
>>>>> uses "PIM networks" but the figure uses "PIM domain". Are any updates 
>>>>> needed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Original:
>>>>>  For instance, in a BIER domain connecting two PIM networks, a PLI
>>>>> can  be used between BIER edge routers solely for multicast state
>>>>> communication and transmit only PIM Join/Prune messages.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>  For instance, in a BIER domain connecting two PIM domains, a PLI
>>>>> can  be used between BIER edge routers solely for multicast state
>>>>> communication and transmit only PIM Join/Prune messages.
>>>>> HB> ok with suggestions
>>>>> -->
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 11) <!-- [rfced] Please clarify "An example DR election could be DR 
>>>>> election".
>>>>>
>>>>> Original:
>>>>>  An example DR election could be DR election between router D and
>>>>> F in  above figure.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>  For example, DR election could be between router D and F in
>>>>> above figure.
>>>>> HB> ok with suggestion
>>>>> -->
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 12) <!-- [rfced] In Sections 3.2.2 and 3.4, we recommend including
>>>>> text to introduce figure.
>>>>>
>>>>> In Section 3.2.2, perhaps the second paragraph can be moved before
>>>>> the figure and first sentence of that paragraph updated in one of
>>>>> the following ways.
>>>>>
>>>>> Original:
>>>>>  For instance, in a BIER domain connecting two PIM networks, a PLI
>>>>> can  be used between BIER edge routers solely for multicast state
>>>>> communication and transmit only PIM Join/Prune messages.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps (add "as in the figure below"):
>>>>>  For instance, in a BIER domain connecting two PIM networks as  in
>>>>> the figure below, a PLI can  be used between BIER edge routers
>>>>> solely for multicast state  communication and transmit only PIM
>>>>> Join/Prune messages.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or (use two sentences):
>>>>>  For instance, the figure below depicts a BIER domain connecting
>>>>> two PIM networks. A PLI can  be used between BIER edge routers
>>>>> solely for multicast state  communication and transmit only PIM
>>>>> Join/Prune messages.
>>>>> HB> I can see how it is better to have both paragraphs after each
>>>>> HB> other
>>>>> followed by the figure.
>>>>> HB>  I suggest:
>>>>> HB>    For instance, in a BIER domain connecting two PIM domains
>>>>> HB> as
>>>>>  in the figure below, a PLI can
>>>>>  be used between BIER edge routers solely for multicast state
>>>>> communication and transmit only PIM Join/Prune messages.
>>>>>
>>>>> In Section 3.4, perhaps the last paragraph can be moved before the
>>>>> figure and updated as follows.
>>>>>
>>>>> Original:
>>>>>  In another example, where the PLI is configured automatically
>>>>> between  the BIER Edge Routers (BER), when the downstream BIER
>>>>> Edge Router
>>>>>  (DBER) is no longer reachable on the upstream BIER Edge Router
>>>>> (UBER), the UBER which is also a PIM Light Router can prune the
>>>>> <S,G>  advertised toward the source on the PIM domain to stop the
>>>>> transmission of the multicast stream.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>  In another example, the PLI is configured automatically between
>>>>> the BIER Edge Routers (BERs) as in the figure below. When the
>>>>> downstream BIER Edge Router
>>>>>  (DBER) is no longer reachable on the upstream BIER Edge Router
>>>>> (UBER), the UBER (which is also a PIM Light router) can prune the
>>>>> <S,G>  advertised toward the source on the PIM domain to stop the
>>>>> transmission of the multicast stream.
>>>>>
>>>>> HB> following the previous example ok with this suggestion.
>>>>> -->
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 13) <!-- [rfced] May we move the text "to prevent multicast stream
>>>>> duplication" as follows to improve readability?
>>>>>
>>>>> Original:
>>>>>  If there
>>>>>  are redundant PIM routers at the edge of the BIER domain, to
>>>>> prevent  multicast stream duplication, they MUST establish PIM
>>>>> adjacency as  per [RFC7761] to ensure DR election at the edge of BIER 
>>>>> domain.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>  If there
>>>>>  are redundant PIM routers at the edge of the BIER domain, they
>>>>> MUST  establish PIM adjacency as per [RFC7761] to prevent
>>>>> multicast stream  duplication and to ensure DR election at the edge of 
>>>>> the BIER domain.
>>>>>
>>>>> HB> ok with suggestion.
>>>>> -->
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 14) <!-- [rfced] We updated this sentence as follows; please
>>>>> review and let us know any concerns.
>>>>>
>>>>> Original:
>>>>>  If a router
>>>>>  supports PIM Light, only when PLI is enabled on an interface,
>>>>> arriving Join/Prune messages MUST be processed, otherwise they
>>>>> MUST  be dropped.
>>>>>
>>>>> Updated:
>>>>>  If a router supports PIM Light, arriving Join/Prune messages MUST
>>>>> be  processed only when a PLI is enabled on an interface;
>>>>> otherwise, they MUST  be dropped.
>>>>>
>>>>> HB> Ok
>>>>> -->
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 15) <!-- [rfced] This sentence does not parse. We updated as
>>>>> follows. Let us know any concerns.
>>>>>
>>>>> Original:
>>>>>  While on some logical interfaces PLI maybe enabled  automatically
>>>>> or via an underlying mechanism, as an example the  logical
>>>>> interface connecting two or more BIER edge routers in a BIER
>>>>> subdomain [draft-ietf-bier-pim-signaling].
>>>>>
>>>>> Updated:
>>>>>  PLI may be enabled automatically or via an underlying mechanism
>>>>> on some  logical interfaces (for example, the logical interface
>>>>> connecting two or  more BIER edge routers in a BIER subdomain [BIER-PIM]).
>>>>>
>>>>> HB> I suggest the following
>>>>>
>>>>> In some cases, PKI maybe enabled automatically via an underlying
>>>>> mechanisms on some logical interface. For example, in a BIER
>>>>> domain a logical interface can connect two or more BIER edge
>>>>> routers as per
>>>>> [draft-ietf-bier- pim-signaling].
>>>>> -->
>>>>
>>>> I think this should be:
>>>> In some cases, PLI maybe enabled automatically via an underlying
>>>> mechanism on a logical interface. For example, in a BIER domain, a
>>>> logical interface can connect two or more BIER edge routers as per
>>>> [draft-ietf-bier- pim-signaling].
>>>>
>>>>> 16) <!-- [rfced] We confirmed that port 8471 is correct in this
>>>>> sentence per the registry at 
>>>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://eur03.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https*3A*2F*2Fwww.iana.org*2Fassignments*2Fservice-names-port-numbers&data=05*7C02*7Cgunter.van_de_velde*40nokia.com*7Ce04cb0dd87754afdbba808dd51f40aa4*7C5d4717519675428d917b70f44f9630b0*7C0*7C0*7C638756831209768118*7CUnknown*7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJFbXB0eU1hcGkiOnRydWUsIlYiOiIwLjAuMDAwMCIsIlAiOiJXaW4zMiIsIkFOIjoiTWFpbCIsIldUIjoyfQ*3D*3D*7C0*7C*7C*7C&sdata=HdnEtAxw8FKGE8jp7n3jOnb*2F6c1bjkaNA3qlfDEu9qc*3D&reserved=0__;JSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSUlJSU!!NEt6yMaO-gk!BjYVaQwQLx4ecMZmEcDP0kZ2c2vcDHb47lBkMdMNzLaN094vUuLYUPoCUDRqUEXJkxxl4hAV4mw0nNKSIPpAKlkGoXd_yJVO$
>>>>>  .
>>>>> In the registry, we see that port 8471 is also for PORT with SCTP
>>>>> as the transport protocol. This sentence just mentions TCP, though
>>>>> SCTP is mentioned in the next sentence. Are any updates needed?
>>>>>
>>>>> Original:
>>>>>  For TCP, PIM over reliable transport (PORT) uses port 8471  which
>>>>> is assigned by IANA.
>>>>> -->
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 17) <!-- [rfced] The first sentence below uses "MUST", but the
>>>>> second uses "must"
>>>>> (although it says "the same is true"). Please review and let us
>>>>> know if any updates are needed.
>>>>>
>>>>> Original:
>>>>>  [RFC6559] mentions that when a
>>>>>  router is configured to use PIM over TCP on a given interface, it
>>>>> MUST include the PIM-over-TCP-Capable Hello Option in its Hello
>>>>> messages for that interface.  The same is true for SCTP and the
>>>>> router must include PIM-over-SCTP-Capable Hello Option in its
>>>>> Hello  message on that interface.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>  [RFC6559] mentions that when a
>>>>>  router is configured to use PIM over TCP on a given interface, it
>>>>> MUST include the PIM-over-TCP-Capable Hello Option in its Hello
>>>>> messages for that interface.  The same is true for SCTP; the
>>>>> router MUST include the PIM-over-SCTP-Capable Hello Option in its
>>>>> Hello  message on that interface.
>>>>>
>>>>> HB> here is a new suggestion for 16 and 17
>>>>> [RFC6559] defines a reliable transport mechanism called PIM over
>>>>> reliable transport (PORT) for PIM transmission  of Join/Prune
>>>>> messages, using either TCP or SCTP as transport  protocol. Both
>>>>> TCP and SCTP use destination port number of 8471.
>>>>> SCTP is explained in [RFC9260], and it is  used as a second option
>>>>> for PORT.  [RFC6559] mentions that when a  router is configured to
>>>>> use PIM over TCP on a given interface, it  MUST include the
>>>>> PIM-over-TCP-Capable Hello Option in its Hello  messages for that
>>>>> interface.  The same is true for SCTP and the  router MUST include
>>>>> PIM-over-SCTP-Capable Hello Option in its Hello  message on that
>>>>> interface.
>>>>> -->
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 18) <!-- [rfced] Will readers understand "Connection ID IP address
>>>>> comparison"?
>>>>> What is being compared?
>>>>>
>>>>> Original:
>>>>>  When the router is using SCTP, the Connection ID IP address
>>>>> comparison need not be done since the SCTP can handle call
>>>>> collision.
>>>>>
>>>>> HB> here is suggestion for better read
>>>>>
>>>>> These Hello options contain a Connection ID which is an IPv4 or
>>>>> IPv6  address used to establish the SCTP or TCP connection.  For
>>>>> PORT using  TCP, the connection ID is used for determining which
>>>>> peer is doing an  active transport open to the neighbor and which
>>>>> peer is doing passive  transport open, as per section 4 of
>>>>> [RFC6559. When the router is using SCTP,  the Connection ID is not
>>>>> used to determine the active and passive peer since the SCTP
>>>>> protocol can handle call  collision.
>>>>> -->
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 19) <!-- [rfced] This sentence in Section 3.5 explains that a
>>>>> Connection ID is an
>>>>> IPv4 or IPv6 address used to establish the SCTP or TCP connection:
>>>>>
>>>>> Original
>>>>>  These Hello options contain a Connection ID which is an IPv4 or
>>>>> IPv6  address used to establish the SCTP or TCP connection.
>>>>>
>>>>> The sentence below appears in the next paragraph. Should the text
>>>>> starting with "Connection ID IPv4 or IPv6 addresses..." be updated
>>>>> for consistency with the previous text?
>>>>>
>>>>> Original:
>>>>>  PIM Light lacks Hello messages, the PLI can be configured with
>>>>> the  Connection ID IPv4 or IPv6 addresses used to establish the
>>>>> SCTP or  TCP connection.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>  Because PIM Light lacks Hello messages, the PLI can be configured
>>>>> with the  Connection ID (i.e., the IPv4 or IPv6 address used to
>>>>> establish the SCTP or  TCP connection).
>>>>> HB> ok with this option.
>>>>>
>>>>> Or:
>>>>>  Because PIM Light lacks Hello messages, the PLI can be configured
>>>>> with the  Connection ID.
>>>>> -->
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 20) <!-- [rfced] Should "Source-Specific and Sparse Mode
>>>>> Join/Prune messages" here be updated to "PIM-SSM and PIM-SM Join/Prune 
>>>>> messages"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Original:
>>>>>  Furthermore, because PIM Light can be used for signaling Source-
>>>>> Specific and Sparse Mode Join/Prune messages, the security
>>>>> considerations outlined in [RFC7761] and [RFC4607] SHOULD be
>>>>> considered where appropriate.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>  Furthermore, because PIM Light can be used for signaling PIM-SSM
>>>>> and PIM-SM Join/Prune messages, the security  considerations
>>>>> outlined in [RFC7761] and [RFC4607] SHOULD be  considered where
>>>>> appropriate.
>>>>> HB> ok with this
>>>>
>>>> I think we should remove "PIM-SSM and" here. PIM-SM Join/Prune messages 
>>>> are also used both for SSM and not SSM and the security implications are 
>>>> the same. Hence, I think it should just say:
>>>>
>>>> Furthermore, because PIM Light can be used for signaling PIM-SM
>>>> Join/Prune messages, the security considerations outlined in [RFC7761] and 
>>>> [RFC4607] SHOULD be considered where appropriate.
>>>>
>>>> Hooman/authors, do you see any specific implications to SSM? I don't see 
>>>> any, but if you do, I suggest adding that in a separate sentence.
>>>>
>>>> That is my last comment. I'm fine with all the suggested changes and 
>>>> Hooman's comments otherwise.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Stig
>>>>
>>>>> -->
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 21) <!-- [rfced] Terminology
>>>>>
>>>>> a) These terms are used inconsistently throughout the text. Should
>>>>> these be uniform? If so, please let us know which form is preferred.
>>>>>
>>>>> DR Election vs. DR election
>>>>> <S,G> vs. (S,G)
>>>>>
>>>>> HB> thanks! They should be (S,G) every where.
>>>>>
>>>>> b) We also note inconsistencies in the terms listed below. We
>>>>> chose the form on the right. Please let us know any objections.
>>>>>
>>>>> PIM Light Router vs. PIM Light router PIM Light Domain vs. PIM
>>>>> Light domain connection ID vs Connection ID Source vs. source join
>>>>> message vs. Join message join/prune message vs. Join/Prune message
>>>>>
>>>>> HB> agreed thanks!
>>>>>
>>>>> c) Should "join attribute" be capitalized per usage in RFC 5384?
>>>>>
>>>>> HB> yes it should.
>>>>>
>>>>> d) Article usage (e.g., "a" and "the") with "PIM Light Interface" and 
>>>>> "PLI"
>>>>> was mixed. We added articles in some instances. Please review for 
>>>>> correctness.
>>>>>
>>>>> -->
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>>>>
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>>>>> -->
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>
>>>>> RFC Editor/rv
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Feb 10, 2025, at 8:38 PM, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote:
>>>>>
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>>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>>> RFC9739 (draft-ietf-pim-light-11)
>>>>>
>>>>> Title            : Protocol Independent Multicast Light (PIM Light)
>>>>> Author(s)        : H. Bidgoli, S. Venaas, M. Mishra, Z. Zhang, M. McBride
>>>>> WG Chair(s)      : Stig Venaas, Mike McBride
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