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Hooman

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Hi Hooman, Stig, and Mankamana,

Thank you for your replies; we have updated the document accordingly (see files 
below). We have two followup questions:

A) Please confirm “network” is okay in these sentences. We ask because we see 
"BIER domain" (rather than “BIER network”) elsewhere in the document.

Current:
  ...such as Bit Index Explicit Replication (BIER) networks
  that connect two or more PIM domains.
  ...
  An example is a Bit Index Explicit
  Replication (BIER) [RFC8279] network connecting multiple PIM
  domains, where PIM Join/Prune messages are tunneled via BIER as
  specified in [BIER-PIM].

HB> I think in this paragraph it is fine to say BIER network connecting 
multiple PIM domains.

B) The following was missed in question #21. Should the capitalization of this 
term be consistent? If so, let us know which form to use.

DR Election vs. DR election
HB> lol this is a though one 😊 looking at RFC 7761 it is "DR election" 90% of 
time but one location it says "DR Election"
HB> lets go with "DR election" please

— FILES (please refresh) —

HB> sorry what do you mean by refresh? Is there action here for the authors? Or 
we should just review it.
Updated XML file:
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9739.xml

Updated output files:
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9739.txt
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9739.pdf
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9739.html

Diff file showing changes made during AUTH48:
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9739-auth48diff.html
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9739-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by side)

Diff files showing all changes:
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9739-diff.html
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9739-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9739-alt-diff.html (shows changes 
where text is moved or deleted)

For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9739

Thank you,

RFC Editor/rv



> On Feb 11, 2025, at 5:00 PM, Mankamana Mishra (mankamis) 
> <mankamis=40cisco....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>
> Changes looks good to me.  From: Stig Venaas (svenaas)
> <sven...@cisco.com>
> Date: Tuesday, February 11, 2025 at 4:15 PM
> To: Hooman Bidgoli (Nokia) <hooman.bidg...@nokia.com>,
> rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org>, s...@cisco.com
> <s...@cisco.com>, Mankamana Mishra (mankamis) <manka...@cisco.com>,
> zzh...@juniper.com <zzh...@juniper.com>, michael.mcbr...@futurewei.com
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> <pim-cha...@ietf.org>, zhang.zh...@zte.com.cn
> <zhang.zh...@zte.com.cn>, Gunter van de Velde (Nokia)
> <gunter.van_de_ve...@nokia.com>, auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
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> Subject: RE: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9739 <draft-ietf-pim-light-11> for your
> review Hi RFC Editor and Hooman
>
> Please see my comments inline.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Hooman Bidgoli (Nokia) <hooman.bidg...@nokia.com>
> > Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2025 3:10 PM
> > To: rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org; s...@cisco.com; Mankamana Mishra
> > (mankamis) <manka...@cisco.com>; zzh...@juniper.com;
> > michael.mcbr...@futurewei.com
> > Cc: pim-...@ietf.org; pim-cha...@ietf.org; zhang.zh...@zte.com.cn;
> > Gunter van de Velde (Nokia) <gunter.van_de_ve...@nokia.com>;
> > auth48archive@rfc- editor.org
> > Subject: RE: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9739 <draft-ietf-pim-light-11> for
> > your review
> > Importance: High
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > My comments Inline, thanks for detail suggestions!
> > Co-authors any comments on my suggestions pls?
> >
> > Do I need to submit a version 12 of draft with the changes?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Hooman
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org>
> > Sent: Monday, February 10, 2025 11:45 PM
> > To: Hooman Bidgoli (Nokia) <hooman.bidg...@nokia.com>;
> > s...@cisco.com; manka...@cisco.com; zzh...@juniper.com;
> > michael.mcbr...@futurewei.com
> > Cc: rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org; pim-...@ietf.org;
> > pim-cha...@ietf.org; zhang.zh...@zte.com.cn; Gunter van de Velde
> > (Nokia) <gunter.van_de_ve...@nokia.com>;
> > auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
> > Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9739 <draft-ietf-pim-light-11> for
> > your review
> >
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> >
> > Authors,
> >
> > While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as
> > necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
> >
> >
> > 1) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear
> > in the
> > title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. -->
> >
> >
> > 2) <!-- [rfced] Abstract
> >
> > a) We updated the text starting with "which does not..." as follows
> > to improve readability; please review and let us know any concerns.
> >
> > Original:
> >    This document specifies Protocol Independent Multicast Light (PIM
> >    Light) and PIM Light Interface (PLI) which does not need PIM Hello
> >    message to accept PIM Join/Prune messages.  PLI can signal multicast
> >    states over networks that can not support full PIM neighbor
> >    discovery, as an example BIER networks that are connecting two or
> >    more PIM domains.
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >    This document specifies Protocol Independent Multicast Light (PIM Light)
> >    and the PIM Light Interface (PLI). A PLI does not need a PIM Hello
> >    message to accept PIM Join/Prune messages, and it can signal multicast
> >    states over networks that cannot support full PIM neighbor
> >    discovery, such as Bit Index Explicit Replication (BIER) networks
> > that connect two or
> >    more PIM domains.
> >
> > HB> ok with this.
> >
> >
> > b) Should "protocol and procedures" be updated to just "procedures"
> > as in the Introduction?
> >
> > Original:
> >    This document outlines the PIM
> >    Light protocol and procedures to ensure loop-free multicast traffic
> >    between two or more PIM Light routers.
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >    This document outlines PIM
> >    Light procedures to ensure loop-free multicast traffic
> >    between two or more PIM Light routers.
> > HB> my vote is to keep it as protocol and procedures. The doc talks
> > HB> about
> > both.
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 3) <!-- [rfced] This is a sentence fragment. How may we update to
> > make a complete sentence? Also, please confirm that "network" is
> > intended here; elsewhere in the document, we see "BIER domain"
> > rather than "BIER network".
> >
> > Original:
> >    For example, in a Bit Index Explicit
> >    Replication (BIER) [RFC8279] networks connecting multiple PIM
> >    domains, where PIM Join/Prune messages are tunneled via BIER as
> >    specified in [draft-ietf-bier-pim-signaling].
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >    An example is a Bit Index Explicit
> >    Replication (BIER) [RFC8279] network connecting multiple PIM
> >    domains, where PIM Join/Prune messages are tunneled via BIER as
> >    specified in [BIER-PIM].
> >
> > HB> This text looks good.
> >
> > Or:
> >    For example, in a Bit Index Explicit
> >    Replication (BIER) [RFC8279] network connecting multiple PIM
> >    domains, PIM Join/Prune messages are tunneled via BIER as
> >    specified in [draft-ietf-bier-pim-signaling].
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 4) <!-- [rfced] Please clarify the text starting with "to
> > ensure...". Also, is "reviver" correct? Or is "receiver" or something else 
> > intended?
> >
> > Original:
> >    As an example
> >    the implementation should ensure that DR election is done on upstream
> >    Redundant PIM routers that are at the edge of the PIM Light Domain to
> >    ensure a single Designated Router to forward the PIM Join message
> >    from reviver to the Source.
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >    As an example,
> >    the implementation should ensure that DR election is done on upstream
> >    redundant PIM routers that are at the edge of the PIM Light domain to
> >    ensure that a single DR forwards the PIM Join message
> >    from the receiver to the source.
> > HB> looks good.
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 5) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We reordered the list in Section 3.1 by type
> > number as only one was out of order.
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 6) <!-- [rfced] Is the text starting with "from the..." needed here?
> > Other entries in the list do not have such notes, and in the IANA
> > registry (linked to in the text introducing this list), RFC 7761 is
> > listed as a reference for type 3. See 
> > https://www.iana.org/assignments/pim-parameters/.
> >
> > Original:
> >    1.  type 3 (Join/Prune) from the ALL-PIM-ROUTERS message types listed
> >        in [RFC7761].
> >
> > Current:
> >    *  type 3 (Join/Prune) (Note that this type is from the ALL-PIM-
> >       ROUTERS message types listed in [RFC7761].)
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >    *  type 3 (Join/Prune)
> >
> > HB> I agree I am not sure why we are saying "from the
> > HB> ALL-PIM-ROUTERS" as
> > that is a multicast address.
> > HB> I am ok with type 3 (Join/Prune). Unless there is a counter thought.
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 7) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We updated "13" to "13.0" to match the
> > registry at https://www.iana.org/assignments/pim-parameters/.
> >
> > Original:
> >    type 13 (PIM Packed Null-Register)
> >
> > Updated:
> >    type 13.0 (PIM Packed Null-Register)
> > HB> ok
> > -->
>
> This really must be 13.0 but it still says 13 in the new version and diffs 
> provided.
>
> >
> > 8) <!-- [rfced] Is "unicast destination IP" correct here, or should
> > it be "unicast destination IP addresses" (with "addresses")?
> >
> > Original:
> >    7.  Any future PIM message types that use unicast destination IP.
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >    *  Any future PIM message types that use unicast destination IP 
> > addresses.
> > HB> ok with this suggestion.
> > -->
>
> A given message will have only a single destination, so it seems a bit odd to 
> me to use plural here. Maybe it can says "Any future PIM message types where 
> the destination is a unicast IP address"?
>
>
> > 9) <!-- [rfced] Will readers know what both instances of "it" refer
> > to in the text "it SHOULD NOT process a join message containing it"?
> >
> > Original:
> >    As such, PIM Light is unaware of its neighbor's
> >    capability to process join attributes and it SHOULD NOT process a
> >    join message containing it.
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >    As such, PIM Light is unaware of its neighbor's
> >    capability to process join attributes and SHOULD NOT process a
> >    Join message containing a join attribute.
> > HB> ok with suggestion
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 10) <!-- [rfced] We note that the sentence below in Section 3.2.2
> > uses "PIM networks" but the figure uses "PIM domain". Are any updates 
> > needed?
> >
> > Original:
> >    For instance, in a BIER domain connecting two PIM networks, a PLI can
> >    be used between BIER edge routers solely for multicast state
> >    communication and transmit only PIM Join/Prune messages.
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >    For instance, in a BIER domain connecting two PIM domains, a PLI can
> >    be used between BIER edge routers solely for multicast state
> >    communication and transmit only PIM Join/Prune messages.
> > HB> ok with suggestions
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 11) <!-- [rfced] Please clarify "An example DR election could be DR 
> > election".
> >
> > Original:
> >    An example DR election could be DR election between router D and F in
> >    above figure.
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >    For example, DR election could be between router D and F in
> >    above figure.
> > HB> ok with suggestion
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 12) <!-- [rfced] In Sections 3.2.2 and 3.4, we recommend including
> > text to introduce figure.
> >
> > In Section 3.2.2, perhaps the second paragraph can be moved before
> > the figure and first sentence of that paragraph updated in one of
> > the following ways.
> >
> > Original:
> >    For instance, in a BIER domain connecting two PIM networks, a PLI can
> >    be used between BIER edge routers solely for multicast state
> >    communication and transmit only PIM Join/Prune messages.
> >
> > Perhaps (add "as in the figure below"):
> >    For instance, in a BIER domain connecting two PIM networks as
> >    in the figure below, a PLI can
> >    be used between BIER edge routers solely for multicast state
> >    communication and transmit only PIM Join/Prune messages.
> >
> > Or (use two sentences):
> >    For instance, the figure below depicts a BIER domain connecting
> >    two PIM networks. A PLI can
> >    be used between BIER edge routers solely for multicast state
> >    communication and transmit only PIM Join/Prune messages.
> > HB> I can see how it is better to have both paragraphs after each
> > HB> other
> > followed by the figure.
> > HB>  I suggest:
> > HB>    For instance, in a BIER domain connecting two PIM domains as
> >    in the figure below, a PLI can
> >    be used between BIER edge routers solely for multicast state
> >    communication and transmit only PIM Join/Prune messages.
> >
> > In Section 3.4, perhaps the last paragraph can be moved before the
> > figure and updated as follows.
> >
> > Original:
> >    In another example, where the PLI is configured automatically between
> >    the BIER Edge Routers (BER), when the downstream BIER Edge Router
> >    (DBER) is no longer reachable on the upstream BIER Edge Router
> >    (UBER), the UBER which is also a PIM Light Router can prune the <S,G>
> >    advertised toward the source on the PIM domain to stop the
> >    transmission of the multicast stream.
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >    In another example, the PLI is configured automatically between
> >    the BIER Edge Routers (BERs) as in the figure below. When the
> > downstream BIER Edge Router
> >    (DBER) is no longer reachable on the upstream BIER Edge Router
> >    (UBER), the UBER (which is also a PIM Light router) can prune the <S,G>
> >    advertised toward the source on the PIM domain to stop the
> >    transmission of the multicast stream.
> >
> > HB> following the previous example ok with this suggestion.
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 13) <!-- [rfced] May we move the text "to prevent multicast stream
> > duplication" as follows to improve readability?
> >
> > Original:
> >    If there
> >    are redundant PIM routers at the edge of the BIER domain, to prevent
> >    multicast stream duplication, they MUST establish PIM adjacency as
> >    per [RFC7761] to ensure DR election at the edge of BIER domain.
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >    If there
> >    are redundant PIM routers at the edge of the BIER domain, they MUST
> >    establish PIM adjacency as per [RFC7761] to prevent multicast stream
> >    duplication and to ensure DR election at the edge of the BIER domain.
> >
> > HB> ok with suggestion.
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 14) <!-- [rfced] We updated this sentence as follows; please review
> > and let us know any concerns.
> >
> > Original:
> >    If a router
> >    supports PIM Light, only when PLI is enabled on an interface,
> >    arriving Join/Prune messages MUST be processed, otherwise they MUST
> >    be dropped.
> >
> > Updated:
> >    If a router supports PIM Light, arriving Join/Prune messages MUST be
> >    processed only when a PLI is enabled on an interface; otherwise, they 
> > MUST
> >    be dropped.
> >
> > HB> Ok
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 15) <!-- [rfced] This sentence does not parse. We updated as
> > follows. Let us know any concerns.
> >
> > Original:
> >    While on some logical interfaces PLI maybe enabled
> >    automatically or via an underlying mechanism, as an example the
> >    logical interface connecting two or more BIER edge routers in a BIER
> >    subdomain [draft-ietf-bier-pim-signaling].
> >
> > Updated:
> >    PLI may be enabled automatically or via an underlying mechanism on some
> >    logical interfaces (for example, the logical interface connecting two or
> >    more BIER edge routers in a BIER subdomain [BIER-PIM]).
> >
> > HB> I suggest the following
> >
> > In some cases, PKI maybe enabled automatically via an underlying
> > mechanisms on some logical interface. For example, in a BIER domain
> > a logical interface can connect two or more BIER edge routers as per
> > [draft-ietf-bier- pim-signaling].
> > -->
>
> I think this should be:
> In some cases, PLI maybe enabled automatically via an underlying
> mechanism on a logical interface. For example, in a BIER domain, a
> logical interface can connect two or more BIER edge routers as per
> [draft-ietf-bier- pim-signaling].
>
> > 16) <!-- [rfced] We confirmed that port 8471 is correct in this
> > sentence per the registry at 
> > https://www.iana.org/assignments/service-names-port-numbers.
> > In the registry, we see that port 8471 is also for PORT with SCTP as
> > the transport protocol. This sentence just mentions TCP, though SCTP
> > is mentioned in the next sentence. Are any updates needed?
> >
> > Original:
> >    For TCP, PIM over reliable transport (PORT) uses port 8471
> >    which is assigned by IANA.
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 17) <!-- [rfced] The first sentence below uses "MUST", but the
> > second uses "must"
> > (although it says "the same is true"). Please review and let us know
> > if any updates are needed.
> >
> > Original:
> >    [RFC6559] mentions that when a
> >    router is configured to use PIM over TCP on a given interface, it
> >    MUST include the PIM-over-TCP-Capable Hello Option in its Hello
> >    messages for that interface.  The same is true for SCTP and the
> >    router must include PIM-over-SCTP-Capable Hello Option in its Hello
> >    message on that interface.
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >    [RFC6559] mentions that when a
> >    router is configured to use PIM over TCP on a given interface, it
> >    MUST include the PIM-over-TCP-Capable Hello Option in its Hello
> >    messages for that interface.  The same is true for SCTP; the
> >    router MUST include the PIM-over-SCTP-Capable Hello Option in its Hello
> >    message on that interface.
> >
> > HB> here is a new suggestion for 16 and 17
> >   [RFC6559] defines a reliable transport mechanism called PIM over
> > reliable transport (PORT) for PIM transmission
> >    of Join/Prune messages, using either TCP or SCTP as transport
> >    protocol. Both TCP and SCTP use destination port number of 8471.
> > SCTP is explained in [RFC9260], and it is
> >    used as a second option for PORT.  [RFC6559] mentions that when a
> >    router is configured to use PIM over TCP on a given interface, it
> >    MUST include the PIM-over-TCP-Capable Hello Option in its Hello
> >    messages for that interface.  The same is true for SCTP and the
> >    router MUST include PIM-over-SCTP-Capable Hello Option in its Hello
> >    message on that interface.
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 18) <!-- [rfced] Will readers understand "Connection ID IP address
> > comparison"?
> > What is being compared?
> >
> > Original:
> >    When the router is using SCTP, the Connection ID IP address
> >    comparison need not be done since the SCTP can handle call
> >    collision.
> >
> > HB> here is suggestion for better read
> >
> > These Hello options contain a Connection ID which is an IPv4 or IPv6
> >    address used to establish the SCTP or TCP connection.  For PORT using
> >    TCP, the connection ID is used for determining which peer is doing an
> >    active transport open to the neighbor and which peer is doing passive
> >    transport open, as per section 4 of [RFC6559. When the router is using 
> > SCTP,
> >    the Connection ID is not used to determine the active and passive
> > peer since the SCTP protocol can handle call
> >    collision.
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 19) <!-- [rfced] This sentence in Section 3.5 explains that a
> > Connection ID is an
> > IPv4 or IPv6 address used to establish the SCTP or TCP connection:
> >
> > Original
> >    These Hello options contain a Connection ID which is an IPv4 or IPv6
> >    address used to establish the SCTP or TCP connection.
> >
> > The sentence below appears in the next paragraph. Should the text
> > starting with "Connection ID IPv4 or IPv6 addresses..." be updated
> > for consistency with the previous text?
> >
> > Original:
> >    PIM Light lacks Hello messages, the PLI can be configured with the
> >    Connection ID IPv4 or IPv6 addresses used to establish the SCTP or
> >    TCP connection.
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >    Because PIM Light lacks Hello messages, the PLI can be configured with 
> > the
> >    Connection ID (i.e., the IPv4 or IPv6 address used to establish the SCTP 
> > or
> >    TCP connection).
> > HB> ok with this option.
> >
> > Or:
> >    Because PIM Light lacks Hello messages, the PLI can be configured with 
> > the
> >    Connection ID.
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 20) <!-- [rfced] Should "Source-Specific and Sparse Mode Join/Prune
> > messages" here be updated to "PIM-SSM and PIM-SM Join/Prune messages"?
> >
> > Original:
> >    Furthermore, because PIM Light can be used for signaling Source-
> >    Specific and Sparse Mode Join/Prune messages, the security
> >    considerations outlined in [RFC7761] and [RFC4607] SHOULD be
> >    considered where appropriate.
> >
> > Perhaps:
> >    Furthermore, because PIM Light can be used for signaling PIM-SSM
> >    and PIM-SM Join/Prune messages, the security
> >    considerations outlined in [RFC7761] and [RFC4607] SHOULD be
> >    considered where appropriate.
> > HB> ok with this
>
> I think we should remove "PIM-SSM and" here. PIM-SM Join/Prune messages are 
> also used both for SSM and not SSM and the security implications are the 
> same. Hence, I think it should just say:
>
> Furthermore, because PIM Light can be used for signaling PIM-SM
> Join/Prune messages, the security considerations outlined in [RFC7761] and 
> [RFC4607] SHOULD be considered where appropriate.
>
> Hooman/authors, do you see any specific implications to SSM? I don't see any, 
> but if you do, I suggest adding that in a separate sentence.
>
> That is my last comment. I'm fine with all the suggested changes and Hooman's 
> comments otherwise.
>
> Thanks,
> Stig
>
> > -->
> >
> >
> > 21) <!-- [rfced] Terminology
> >
> > a) These terms are used inconsistently throughout the text. Should
> > these be uniform? If so, please let us know which form is preferred.
> >
> > DR Election vs. DR election
> > <S,G> vs. (S,G)
> >
> > HB> thanks! They should be (S,G) every where.
> >
> > b) We also note inconsistencies in the terms listed below. We chose
> > the form on the right. Please let us know any objections.
> >
> > PIM Light Router vs. PIM Light router PIM Light Domain vs. PIM Light
> > domain connection ID vs Connection ID Source vs. source join message
> > vs. Join message join/prune message vs. Join/Prune message
> >
> > HB> agreed thanks!
> >
> > c) Should "join attribute" be capitalized per usage in RFC 5384?
> >
> > HB> yes it should.
> >
> > d) Article usage (e.g., "a" and "the") with "PIM Light Interface" and "PLI"
> > was mixed. We added articles in some instances. Please review for 
> > correctness.
> >
> > -->
> >
> >
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> > and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this nature
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> >
> > Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this
> > should still be reviewed as a best practice.
> > -->
> >
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > RFC Editor/rv
> >
> >
> >
> > On Feb 10, 2025, at 8:38 PM, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote:
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> > --------------------------------------
> > RFC9739 (draft-ietf-pim-light-11)
> >
> > Title            : Protocol Independent Multicast Light (PIM Light)
> > Author(s)        : H. Bidgoli, S. Venaas, M. Mishra, Z. Zhang, M. McBride
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