Hi Alice,

On 2/19/2025 11:41 PM, Alice Russo wrote:
Benoit,

Thank you for replying to the questions. The document has been updated 
accordingly; please see the follow-ups below. The revised files are here 
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   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9740.html
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9740.txt
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9740.pdf
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9740.xml

This diff file shows all changes from the approved I-D:
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9740-diff.html
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9740-rfcdiff.html (side by side)

This diff file shows the changes made during AUTH48 thus far:
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9740-auth48diff.html
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9740-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by side)


Re: #3 (Section 1.1), we added the bulleted item; please review. (We are assuming the 
reply "Yes" was about adding the bulleted item, rather than removing the 
sentence.)
Indeed.

Re: #6 (Section 3.4), no update has been made. To clarify, the question is: should "Destination Options 
header" be "Destination Options headers" in this list?  (The question was not about the word 
"Options".)
Ah.
No need to change:"Destination Options header" is right

Re: #7 (Section 4.1), we await word from Med.

Re: #10 (Table 3), no updates have been made, as perhaps the capitalization intentionally matches RFC 5102. 
Specifically, we see "Routing header", "Fragment header - first fragment", and 
"Fragment header - not first fragment" in RFC 5102. Please let us know if there are descriptions 
that you want to change.
We're good.

Thanks for your work.

Regards, Benoit


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On Feb 18, 2025, at 2:59 AM, Benoit 
Claise<benoit.claise=40huawei....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:

Dear IANA,

I reviewedhttps://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9740-rfcdiff.html and all 
changes look good.

On 2/18/2025 1:00 AM,rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote:
Authors,

While reviewing this document during AUTH48 (
https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9740.html
  and other formats), please resolve the following questions, which are also in 
the XML file.

1) <!--[rfced] May the title be updated for readability as follows or otherwise?

Original:
Extended TCP Options and IPv6 Extension Headers IPFIX Information Elements

Perhaps:
New IPFIX Information Elements for TCP Options and IPv6 Extensions Headers
-->

That works for me.
2) <!--[rfced] FYI, this sentence has been rephrased to avoid the dangling
"IEs" at the end of the sentence. Please review. (One hyphen is actually
two hyphens within the document.)

Original:
    This document specifies new IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX)
    [RFC7011] Information Elements (IEs) to solve a set of issues
    encountered with the specifications of ipv6ExtensionHeaders (to
    export IPv6 extension headers) and tcpOptions (to export TCP options)
    IEs [IANA-IPFIX].

Current:
    This document specifies new IP Flow Information Export (IPFIX)
    [RFC7011] Information Elements (IEs) to solve a set of issues
    encountered with the specifications of two IEs -
    ipv6ExtensionHeaders (to export IPv6 extension headers) and
    tcpOptions (to export TCP options) [IANA-IPFIX].
-->

Good improvement

3) <!--[rfced] Please clarify the last sentence of this list item. It seems
similar to the first sentence; should it be removed? If it's not the
same (perhaps this was intended to distinguish between "specify" and
"discuss"), should it be a separate bullet point?

Original:
    The specification of the ipv6ExtensionHeaders IPFIX IE (64) does not:

[...]
    *  Specify whether the exported values match the full enclosed values
       or only up to a limit imposed by hardware or software (e.g.,
       Section 1.1 of [RFC8883]).  Note that some implementations may not
       be able to export all observed extension headers in a Flow because
       of a hardware or software limit (see, e.g.,
       [I-D.ietf-6man-eh-limits]).  The specification of the
       ipv6ExtensionHeaders IE does not discuss whether it covers all
       enclosed extension headers or only up to a limit.

Perhaps:
    The specification of the ipv6ExtensionHeaders IPFIX IE (64) does not:

[...]
    *  Specify whether the exported values match the full enclosed values
       or only up to a limit imposed by hardware or software (e.g.,
       Section 1.1 of [RFC8883]).  Note that some implementations may not
       be able to export all observed extension headers in a Flow because
       of a hardware or software limit (see, e.g., [EH-LIMITS]).

    *  Discuss whether it covers all enclosed extension headers or only
       up to a limit.
-->

Yes.
4) <!--[rfced] May this be rephrased for conciseness and readability?
In particular, "aggregate extension headers length" reads oddly.

Original:
    *  Specify how to report extension header chains or aggregate
       extension headers length.

Perhaps:
    *  Specify how to report chains or aggregate lengths of
       extension headers.

Or (because "extension header chain" is a defined term):
    *  Specify how to report extension header chains or
       aggregate lengths of extension headers.

This one above (extension header chain is a defined term)
-->


5) <!--[rfced] Regarding this defined term, may we change "chain" to "chains"?
It reads oddly as singular.

Original:
    Flow with varying extension header chain:  Refers to a Flow where
       distinct extension header chains are observed.

Suggested:
    Flow with varying extension header chains:  Refers to a Flow where
       distinct extension header chains are observed.

Yes.

Examples of usage are below. [This is not a comprehensive list.]

Original (Section 3.3):
       Extension headers observed in a Flow with varying extension header
       chain MUST NOT be grouped ...

Suggested:
       Extension headers observed in a Flow with varying extension header
       chains MUST NOT be grouped ...

yes.

Original (Section 3.6):
    Each header chain length of a Flow with varying extension header
    chain MUST be exported in a separate
    ipv6ExtensionHeadersChainLength IE.

Suggested:
    Each header chain length of a Flow with varying extension header
    chains MUST be exported in a separate
    ipv6ExtensionHeadersChainLength IE.
-->

Yes

6) <!--[rfced] Should "Desination Options header" be plural here?

Yes. Seehttps://www.iana.org/assignments/ipv6-parameters/ipv6-parameters.xhtml

60      Destination Options for IPv6    [RFC8200]
Andhttps://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc8200.html#section-4.6
We ask because the other headers are preceded by "a"
and because of plural usage in the bulleted list that follows.

Original:
       For example, if an IPv6
       packet of a Flow includes a Hop-by-Hop Options header, a
       Destination Options header, a Fragment header, and Destination
       Options header, the ipv6ExtensionHeaderTypeCountList IE will
       report:

Perhaps:
       For example, if an IPv6
       packet of a Flow includes a Hop-by-Hop Options header, a
       Destination Options header, a Fragment header, and Destination
       Options headers, the ipv6ExtensionHeaderTypeCountList IE will
       report:
-->


7) <!--[rfced] Is the word "flags" necessary here? The phrase "the shared
TCP options flags" reads oddly and does not appear elsewhere in this
document. We note "TCP options flags" has appeared in
zero RFCs, and this document uses "a shared TCP option (Kind=253 or 254)
in a Flow" in Sections 4.2 and 4.3.

Background info
- TCP_FLAGS appears in RFC 3954
- It became tcpControlBits in RFC5102 and IANA

Original:
       In order to optimize the use
       of the reduced-size encoding in the presence of
       tcpSharedOptionExID16List or tcpSharedOptionExID32List IEs, the
       Exporter MUST NOT set to 1 the shared TCP options (Kind=253 or
       254) flags of the tcpOptionsFull IE that is reported for the same
       Flow.

Option A (if removing "flags"):
       In order to optimize the use
       of the reduced-size encoding in the presence of
       tcpSharedOptionExID16List or tcpSharedOptionExID32List IEs, the
       Exporter MUST NOT set to 1 the shared TCP options (Kind=253 or
       254) of the tcpOptionsFull IE that is reported for the same Flow.

Option B (perhaps rephrase to retain "flags"):
       In order to optimize the use
       of the reduced-size encoding in the presence of
       tcpSharedOptionExID16List or tcpSharedOptionExID32List IEs, the
       Exporter MUST NOT set to 1 the flags of the shared TCP options (Kind=253
       or 254) of the tcpOptionsFull IE that is reported for the same Flow.
-->

I believe I am fine with Option A but I would like to get Med's opinion here.

8) <!--[rfced] Regarding the figure titles, may the ordinal numbers
be removed as follows? The reason for "First Example" on Figure 1
is unclear. Also, we suggest removing the article ("A" / "An") for
conciseness and to match the title of Figure 7.

Original:
Figure 1: A First Example of EH/Bit Mappings in the ipv6ExtensionHeadersFull IE
Figure 2: A First Example of ipv6ExtensionHeadersFull IE with Reduced-size 
Encoding
Figure 3: A Second Example of ipv6ExtensionHeadersFull IE with Reduced-size 
Encoding
Figure 4: An Example of ipv6ExtensionHeadersFull IE Reported for an Extension 
Header Chain
Figure 5: An Example of TCP Options / Bit Mappings in a tcpOptionsFull IE
Figure 6: An Example of tcpOptionsFull IE with Reduced-size Encdoing

Perhaps:
Figure 1: Example of EH/Bit Mappings in the ipv6ExtensionHeadersFull IE
Figure 2: Example A of ipv6ExtensionHeadersFull IE with Reduced-Size Encoding
Figure 3: Example B of ipv6ExtensionHeadersFull IE with Reduced-Size Encoding
Figure 4: Example of ipv6ExtensionHeadersFull IE Reported for an Extension 
Header Chain
Figure 5: Example of TCP Options / Bit Mappings in a tcpOptionsFull IE
Figure 6: Example of tcpOptionsFull IE with Reduced-Size Encoding
-->

Ok.
9) <!--[rfced] Section 8.2: FYI, the name in the I-D and the IANA registry
did not match ("Type" missing in the I-D). We have updated
this document to match the IANA registry (and to match Section 3.1).
Please let us know if that is not what you intended.

Original: ipv6ExtensionHeader
Updated:  ipv6ExtensionHeaderType

(to match 513 ipv6ExtensionHeaderType on

https://www.iana.org/assignments/ipfix
  and Section 3.1)
-->

good catch.

10) <!--[rfced] For the Descriptions in Table 3, would you like to make the
capitalization more consistent or leave as is? Title case is used for
some items; initial-word capitalization is used for others. (If there
are any changes, then we will ask IANA to update the registry accordingly.)

For examples:
Routing header (5) vs. Mobility Header (7)

Destination Options for IPv6 (0) vs.
Fragmentation header - first fragment (4)
-->

Yes for consistency.

Many thanks for your work.

Regards, Benoit

11) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the online
Style Guide
<https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>

and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this nature typically
result in more precise language, which is helpful for readers.

Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this should
still be reviewed as a best practice.
-->


Thank you.

RFC Editor/ar


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RFC9740 (draft-ietf-opsawg-ipfix-tcpo-v6eh-18)

Title            : Extended TCP Options and IPv6 Extension Headers IPFIX 
Information Elements
Author(s)        : M. Boucadair, B. Claise
WG Chair(s)      : Henk Birkholz, Joe Clarke
Area Director(s) : Warren Kumari, Mahesh Jethanandani

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