Hi Med,

We have updated the document as described below.  

For this one, please review the update closely, as I am not sure I understood 
the desired update.  

> (3) S3.2 No explicit mention of the IANA registry in the description of the 
> info type.
> 
> CURRENT: Information Type (2 bytes): defined types are: 

It currently reads as follows:

   *  Information Type (2 bytes): types are as defined in the "BMP Peer
      Up Message TLVs" registry:


Please review the current files:
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9736.xml
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9736.txt
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9736.pdf
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9736.html

Diffs of the most recently updates only: 
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9736-lastdiff.html
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9736-lastrfcdiff.html (side by side)

AUTH48 diffs: 
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9736-auth48diff.html
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9736-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by side)

Comprehensive diffs: 
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9736-diff.html
   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9736-rfcdiff.html (side by side)


Please review and let us know if any further updates are needed or if you 
approve the RFC for publication. 

Thank you,
RFC Editor/sg





> On Feb 11, 2025, at 10:08 PM, mohamed.boucad...@orange.com wrote:
> 
> Hi all,
> 
>  
> 
> Some few comments about the edited version, fwiw:
> 
>  
> 
> (1) S.1 Expand at first use
> 
>  
> 
> CURRENT
> 
>    [RFC7854] defines a number of different BMP message types.  With the
> 
>                                            ^^^^
> 
>    exception of the Route Monitoring message type, these messages are
> 
>    TLV-structured.  Most message types have distinct namespaces and IANA
> 
>    registries.  However, the namespace of the Peer Up message overlaps
> 
>    that of the Initiation message.  As the BGP Monitoring Protocol has
> 
>                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 
>  
> 
> NEW:
> 
>    [RFC7854] defines a number of different BGP Monitoring Protocol (BMP) 
> message types.  With the
>    exception of the Route Monitoring message type, these messages are
>    TLV-structured.  Most message types have distinct namespaces and IANA
>    registries.  However, the namespace of the Peer Up message overlaps
>    that of the Initiation message.  As BMP has
>  
> 
> (2) S3.1 nit
> 
>  
> 
> CURRENT: provided for here for completeness
> 
> NEW: provided for completeness
> 
>  
> 
> (3) S3.2 No explicit mention of the IANA registry in the description of the 
> info type.
> 
>  
> 
> CURRENT: Information Type (2 bytes): defined types are:
>  
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Med
> 
>  
> 
> De : Sandy Ginoza <sgin...@staff.rfc-editor.org> 
> Envoyé : mercredi 12 février 2025 00:52
> À : Paolo Lucente <pa...@ntt.net>
> Cc : RFC Editor <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org>; John Scudder <j...@juniper.net>; 
> grow-...@ietf.org; grow-cha...@ietf.org; j...@fastly.com; Warren Kumari 
> <war...@kumari.net>; auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
> Objet : Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9736 <draft-ietf-grow-bmp-peer-up-05> for your 
> review
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Hi Paolo,
> 
>  
> 
> Thank you for your reply. We have updated the document as described below.  
> In particular, thank you for your explanation regarding 3a and 3d.  
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Regarding item 6, please verify that this is correct, as it’s different from 
> what I see in Section 4.4 of RFC 7854. 
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> 6) <!-- [rfced] Please confirm that the bit ruler appears as expected.
> Typically the numbers appear over the hyphens.  Compare the alignment with
> the figure in Section 4.4 of RFC 7854 
> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7854.html#section-4.4>.
> Original (this doc):
> 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> -->
> 
> 
> I confirm it looks good, it was pretty much copy-pasted :-)
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From Section 4.4 of RFC 7854: 
> 
> 
>       0                   1                   2                   3
>       0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
>      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>      |          Information Type     |       Information Length      |
>      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>      |                 Information (variable)                        |
>      ~                                                               ~
>      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Also including a snapshot in case the figure above doesn’t display correctly: 
> 
>  
> 
> <image001.png>
>  
> 
>  
> 
> Please review the current files and let us know if any additional updates are 
> needed.
> 
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9736.xml
> 
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9736.txt
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9736.pdf
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9736.html
> 
> AUTH48 diffs: 
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9736-auth48diff.html
> 
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9736-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by 
> side)
> 
> Comprehensive diffs: 
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9736-diff.html
>    https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9736-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
> 
>  
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> RFC Editor/sg
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Feb 5, 2025, at 12:00 PM, Paolo Lucente <pa...@ntt.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Please see inline:
> 
> On 4/2/25 00:04, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote:
> 
> 
> Authors,
> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary)
> the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
> 1) <!-- [rfced] For clarity, may we replace "oversight" with "overlap"?
> Original:
>    As the BGP Monitoring Protocol has
>    been extended, this oversight has become problematic.
> Perhaps:
>    As the BGP Monitoring Protocol has
>    been extended, this overlap has become problematic.
> -->
> 
> 
> That works!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2) <!-- [rfced] We find the "corresponding missing registry" somewhat
> confusing because it seems to refer to the registry being renamed as
> "missing".  Please consider whether the suggested text would be more clear.
> Original:
>    In this
>    document, we create a distinct namespace for the Peer Up message to
>    eliminate this overlap, and create the corresponding missing
>    registry.
> Perhaps:
>    In this
>    document, we create distinct namespaces for the Peer Up and Initiation
>    messages to eliminate the overlap.
> -->
> 
> 
> That works! Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 3) <!-- [rfced] Section 3: Please review the questions below.
> a) It is unclear to us whether Section 3.1 refers to the updates to the
> "BMP Initiation Information TLVs" registry [1] or if it indicates that
> "Initiation" should to be updated to "Initiation Information" in the "BMP
> Message Types" registry [2], or both.
> Please review the IANA registries and let us know if updates are needed.
> [1] 
> https://www.iana.org/assignments/bmp-parameters/bmp-parameters.xhtml#initiation-information-tlvs
> [2] 
> https://www.iana.org/assignments/bmp-parameters/bmp-parameters.xhtml#message-types
> b) If updating the entry in "BMP Message Types" is intended, we suggest
> describing the action in the IANA Considerations section as well.  Please
> provide text.
> 
> 
> None of the two, we are just updating RFC7854:
> 
> in section 4.4 of RFC7854 the optional TLV that can follow an Initiation 
> message is called "Information TLV". We are just changing that definition to 
> "Initiation Information TLV" to limit the scope to the Initialization message 
> only. Nothing to do for IANA here as in section 10.5 of RFC7854 the registry 
> is correctly already named "BMP Initiation Message TLVs". (see more in my 
> comment to your point "d")
> 
> 
> 
> 
> c) The section title feels overloaded. May we change it as follows?
> Original:
> 3.1.  Revision to Information TLV, Renamed as Initiation Information TLV
> Perhaps:
> 3.1.  Revision to the Information TLV
> 
> 
> Agree!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> d) Somewhat related, Section 3.3 says:
> Original:
>    The Peer Up Information TLV is used by the Peer Up message.
> Is the Peer Up Information TLV an IANA-registered value?  We don't see
> "Peer Up Information" in the BMP registry.
> -->
> 
> 
> Similarly to before, we are just updating RFC7854. In section 4.10 of RFC7854 
> we find "Information: Information about the peer, using the Information TLV 
> (Section 4.4) format. [ .. ]"; so we are overloading the term Information TLV 
> for two different message types, Initialization and Peer Up; in this document 
> we say they are called differently and each will ultimately point to a 
> different IANA registry:
> 
> * Initialization Information TLV field to the existing "BMP Initiation 
> Information TLVs" IANA registry;
> 
> * Peer Up Information TLV field to the newly created (as part of this 
> document) "BMP Peer Up Information TLVs" IANA registry;
> 
> Hope this makes things more clear.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 4) <!-- [rfced] The text mentions Type 0 being revised, but the text that
> follows also includes definitions for Types 1 and 2.  May we update the
> text as follows for clarity?
> Original:
>    The definition of Type = 0 is revised to be:
> Perhaps:
>    The definition of Type = 0 is revised as shown below.
>    Type = 1 and Type = 2 are unchanged; they are provided
>    for here for completeness.
> -->
> 
> 
> Agree!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 5) <!-- [rfced] Because this text is supposed to replace text in RFC 9736,
> we have updated "defined below (Section 3.3)" to read "defined in Section
> 3.3 of RFC 9736."  Rationale: if this text were incorporated into RFC 7854,
> "below (Section 3.3)" would be incorrect.
> Original:
>    *  Information: Information about the peer, using the Peer Up
>       Information TLV format defined below (Section 3.3).
> -->
> 
> 
> Agree!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 6) <!-- [rfced] Please confirm that the bit ruler appears as expected.
> Typically the numbers appear over the hyphens.  Compare the alignment with
> the figure in Section 4.4 of RFC 7854 
> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc7854.html#section-4.4>.
> Original (this doc):
> 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8
> +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> -->
> 
> 
> I confirm it looks good, it was pretty much copy-pasted :-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 7) <!-- [rfced] Some author comments are present in the XML. Please confirm
> that no updates related to these comments are outstanding. Note that the
> comments will be deleted prior to publication.
> -->
> 
> 
> I confirm there are no updates and they can be deleted.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 8) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the
> online Style Guide 
> <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>
> and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this nature
> typically result in more precise language, which is helpful for readers.
> Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this should
> still be reviewed as a best practice.
> -->
> 
> 
> It seems all fine to me, thanks for bringing this up.
> 
> Paolo
> 
> 
> 
>  
> 
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