Alanna, I approve of the formatting as well as the content
David M. Oliver | da...@guardianproject.info | https://guardianproject.info | @davidmoliver | +1 970 368 2366 On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 6:23 PM Alanna Paloma <apal...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote: > Hi David, > > Thank you. Your approval has been noted: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9729 > > We ask that both David and Jonathan also review and approve of the > formatting. > > Best regards, > RFC Editor/ap > > > On Feb 11, 2025, at 3:02 PM, David Schinazi <dschinazi.i...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Thanks Alanna. > > > > I updated our local copy to use the shorter IANA links per the style > guide. > > I was then able to confirm that the TXT diff between our copy and yours > is now empty. > > I also checked the formatting on other files and there were no surprises. > > > > You have my approval to publish. Do you also need other authors to > reapprove or is one enough here? > > > > Thanks, > > David > > > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 2:46 PM Alanna Paloma < > apal...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote: > > Hi David, > > > > > 1) IANA registries. I see that the links to the registries no longer > include the anchor that points to the registry. Was that intentional? > > > > Yes, this was intentional. This update was made per guidance from IANA > that that only the short version of the URL should be used. Please see the > Web Portion of the Style Guide < > https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#ref_iana_reg> and IANA’s > Guidance for RFC Authors <https://www.iana.org/help/protocol-registration> > for more information. > > > > > 2) The MASQUE-ORIGINAL reference was changed from > draft-schinazi-masque-00 to draft-schinazi-masque-02. Please revert to > draft-schinazi-masque-00. The goal here is to show the earliest prior art, > so we intentionally want the older version. -02 is particularly wrong > because the auth component had been removed at that point. > > > > We reverted this update to point to draft-schinazi-masque-00. > > > > ... > > The files have been posted here (please refresh): > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729.xml > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729.txt > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729.html > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729.pdf > > > > Best regards, > > RFC Editor/ap > > > > > On Feb 11, 2025, at 2:13 PM, David Schinazi <dschinazi.i...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > Hi Alanna, > > > > > > I looked at the diff between the version we reviewed and the latest > one, and found some unexpected changes. > > > > > > 1) IANA registries. I see that the links to the registries no longer > include the anchor that points to the registry. Was that intentional? > > > > > > 2) The MASQUE-ORIGINAL reference was changed from > draft-schinazi-masque-00 to draft-schinazi-masque-02. Please revert to > draft-schinazi-masque-00. The goal here is to show the earliest prior art, > so we intentionally want the older version. -02 is particularly wrong > because the auth component had been removed at that point. > > > > > > Thanks, > > > David > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 1:32 PM Alanna Paloma < > apal...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote: > > > Authors, > > > > > > We have noted Jonathan’s approval on the AUTH48 status page: > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9729 > > > > > > As the content of the document has been approved, we now ask that each > author review and approve of the formatting in the output files below. > > > > > > The files have been posted here (please refresh): > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729.xml > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729.txt > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729.html > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729.pdf > > > > > > Once we have receive approval of the formatting, we will move this > document forward in the publication process. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > RFC Editor/ap > > > > > > > On Feb 11, 2025, at 8:00 AM, Jonathan Hoyland < > jonathan.hoyl...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Alanna, > > > > I've just gone through the document again, and you have my approval > too. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jonathan > > > > > > > > On Mon, 10 Feb 2025, 16:32 Alanna Paloma, < > apal...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote: > > > > Hi David, > > > > > > > > Thank you for your reply. Your approval has been noted: > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9729 > > > > > > > > We await Jonathan’s approval of the content. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > RFC Editor/ap > > > > > > > > > On Feb 9, 2025, at 7:56 AM, David Oliver < > da...@guardianproject.info> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Wonderful. You have my approval on the recent updates on RFC9729. > > > > > > > > > > David M. Oliver | da...@guardianproject.info | > https://guardianproject.info | @davidmoliver | +1 970 368 2366 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 12:49 PM Alanna Paloma < > apal...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote: > > > > > Hi David, > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your reply. We have updated the files with your > additional tweaks and noted your approval on the AUTH48 status page: > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9729 > > > > > > > > > > The updated files have been posted here (please refresh): > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729.md > > > > > > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-diff.html > (comprehensive text diff) > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-auth48diff.html > (AUTH48 text diff) > > > > > > > > > > (Note: We have adjusted the wrapping to now have a width of 80.) > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-mdrfcdiff.html > (comprehensive md diff) > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-mdauth48diff.html > (AUTH48 md diff) > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-mdlastdiff.html (last > version to this one) > > > > > > > > > > We will now await approvals of the content from David M. Oliver > and Jonathan Hoyland. > > > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > RFC Editor/ap > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 4, 2025, at 4:08 PM, David Schinazi < > dschinazi.i...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Alanna! > > > > > > > > > > > > I went through the document in detail, and I think the changes > look great. I made three small tweaks to your version, and uploaded them > here: > > > > > > > https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/commit/03cd6dc3b6588b30a40ce74f59843ed96a15555c > > > > > > > > > > > > Apart from that, I think this is good to go. > > > > > > > > > > > > Doing the review in markdown made it incredibly seamless. I have > a couple incredibly minor points about the markdown diff: > > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-mdrfcdiff.html > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) it points out a change in the lines surrounding > diagrams/sourcecode blocks: it says that "~~" was changed to "~~~" even > though both versions contain "~~~". > > > > > > 2) it seems to be set to a column width of 78. That causes a few > lines to wrap for documents where we use a width of 80 (which I think is > the default?). > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 1:53 PM Alanna Paloma < > apal...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote: > > > > > > Hi David, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you for your reply. We have updated as requested. > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) <!-- [rfced] We see that the capitalization of "Key ID" is > inconsistent. Please let how we should update it. > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the inconsistency is intentional: "key ID" refers to > the concept, whereas "Key ID" refers to the eponymous field in the Key > Exporter Context structure. Does that work or do you think it reduces > clarity? > > > > > > > > > > > > ) Thank you for clarifying. The reasoning makes sense, and it > should be clear enough from the context within the document. We have left > the capitalization as is. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The updated files have been posted here (please refresh): > > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729.md > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-diff.html > (comprehensive text diff) > > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-auth48diff.html > (AUTH48 text diff) > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-mdrfcdiff.html > (comprehensive md diff side-by-side) > > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-mdauth48diff.html > (AUTH48 md diff side-by-side) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please review the document carefully and contact us with any > further updates you may have. Note that we do not make changes once a > document is published as an RFC. > > > > > > > > > > > > We will await approvals from each author of the content in the > markdown prior to converting the markdown to RFCXML and asking each authors > to review and approve the final files. > > > > > > > > > > > > For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see: > > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9729 > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > > > RFC Editor/ap > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 3, 2025, at 7:43 PM, David Schinazi < > dschinazi.i...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi RFC Editor(s), > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First off, I really wanted to thank you for doing this AUTH48 > in markdown - it's a huge life improvement :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please find answers to your questions inline below. Let me > know when you've incorporated those and I'll do a full pass of the document > as soon as I can in the next few days. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 12:18 PM <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org> > wrote: > > > > > > > Authors, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve > (as necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 1) <!-- [rfced] FYI, we have added the following sentence to > Section 1.1 > > > > > > > ("Conventions and Definitions") in order to include a citation > for RFC 8792 in the text. Please let us know of any objections. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Current: > > > > > > > Various examples in this document contain long lines that > may be folded, > > > > > > > as described in [RFC8792]. > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2) <!--[rfced] Throughout the text, "Concealed HTTP > authentication scheme" and "Concealed authentication scheme" appear to be > used inconsistently. Please review these occurrences and let us know if/how > they be made consistent. Some examples are listed here: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Original: > > > > > > > When a client wishes to use the Concealed HTTP > authentication scheme > > > > > > > with a request, it SHALL compute the authentication proof > using a TLS > > > > > > > keying material exporter with the following parameters: > > > > > > > ... > > > > > > > If a frontend is configured to check the Concealed > authentication > > > > > > > scheme, it will parse the Authorization (or > Proxy-Authorization) > > > > > > > header field. > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think that the defining statement at the start of section 2 > > > > > > > <<This document defines the "Concealed" HTTP authentication > scheme.>> > > > > > > > should include "HTTP" to be extra clear when defining it. I'm > happy for all other uses to be consistent. > > > > > > > So maybe we make them all <<Concealed HTTP authentication > scheme>>? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 3) <!-- [rfced] Please review sourcecode types within the > markdown file, and let us know if they should be set and/or have been set > correctly. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The current list of preferred values for sourcecode types is > available at > > > > > > > < > https://www.rfc-editor.org/rpc/wiki/doku.php?id=sourcecode-types>. > > > > > > > If the current list does not contain an applicable type, feel > free to > > > > > > > suggest additions for consideration. Note that it is also > acceptable > > > > > > > to leave the sourcecode type not set. > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They look correct to me. It might be useful to define a new > type for the QUIC presentation format given how common it's becoming (since > we have one for the TLS presentation format), but for this document those > can stay empty since it doesn't exist yet. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 4) <!-- [rfced] We see that the capitalization of "Key ID" is > inconsistent. Please let how we should update it. > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I think the inconsistency is intentional: "key ID" refers to > the concept, whereas "Key ID" refers to the eponymous field in the Key > Exporter Context structure. Does that work or do you think it reduces > clarity? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 5) <!--[rfced] As "Signature Algorithm" is being used in a > general way and not as a field name, may we make it lowercase in this > sentence? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Original: > > > > > > > The encoding of the public key is determined by the > Signature > > > > > > > Algorithm in use as follows: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps: > > > > > > > The encoding of the public key is determined by the > signature > > > > > > > algorithm in use as follows: > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Agreed, that one's not the field name so lowercase makes sense. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 6) <!--[rfced] For clarity, may we update "which" to "that" > here? It depends on the intended meaning, as noted below. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Original: > > > > > > > The public key is an RSAPublicKey structure > > > > > > > [PKCS1] encoded in DER [X.690]. BER encodings which are > not DER > > > > > > > MUST be rejected. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps (restrictive "that", meaning some BER encodings): > > > > > > > The public key is an RSAPublicKey structure > > > > > > > [PKCS1] encoded in DER [X.690]. BER encodings that are not > DER > > > > > > > MUST be rejected. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Or (nonrestrictive "which", meaning all BER encodings): > > > > > > > The public key is an RSAPublicKey structure > > > > > > > [PKCS1] encoded in DER [X.690]. BER encodings, which are > not DER, > > > > > > > MUST be rejected. > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're correct, let's use "that" here. Some BER encodings are > DER, and those are valid and must not be rejected. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 7) <!-- [rfced] We having difficulty parsing the following > sentence. > > > > > > > Does the key ID authenticate or does the client? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Current: > > > > > > > For example, the key ID "basement" authenticating using > Ed25519 > > > > > > > [ED25519] could produce the following header field > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps: > > > > > > > For example, a client authenticating with the key ID > "basement" > > > > > > > and using Ed25519 [ED25519] could produce the following > header > > > > > > > field > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You're correct that the key ID doesn't authenticate. However, > "authenticate" is somewhat annoying as a verb in that the concept of "the > client is proving to the server that it is who it says it is" can be said > as "the server authenticated the client" or "the client authenticated to > the server" - and not everyone agrees that they're both valid. How about we > sidestep the issue with something like this: > > > > > > > <<For example, a client using the key ID "basement" and the > signature algorithm Ed25519 [ED25519] could produce the following header > field:>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8) <!-- [rfced] RFC 8941 has been obsoleted by RFC 9651. May > we replace RFC 8941 with RFC 9651? > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, please. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion > of the online Style Guide < > https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language> and let > us know if any changes are needed. Updates of this nature typically result > in more precise language, which is helpful for readers. > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I didn't find any instances of non inclusive language, but let > me know if you noticed any. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 10) <!--[rfced] References. May we add the following URL to > this reference for the ease of the reader? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-X.690 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Current: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [X.690] ITU-T, "Information technology - ASN.1 encoding > Rules: > > > > > > > Specification of Basic Encoding Rules (BER), > Canonical > > > > > > > Encoding Rules (CER) and Distinguished Encoding > Rules > > > > > > > (DER)", ITU-T Recommendation X690, ISO/IEC > 8825-1:2021, > > > > > > > February 2021. > > > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sounds good. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RFC Editor/ap/jm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/31/25 2:14 PM, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote: > > > > > > > *****IMPORTANT***** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Updated 2025/01/31 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > RFC Author(s): > > > > > > > -------------- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Instructions for Completing AUTH48 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your document has now entered AUTH48. 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