Hi David,

Thank you for your reply. We have updated the files with your additional tweaks 
and noted your approval on the AUTH48 status page:
 https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9729

The updated files have been posted here (please refresh):
 https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729.md

 https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-diff.html (comprehensive text diff)
 https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-auth48diff.html (AUTH48 text diff)

(Note: We have adjusted the wrapping to now have a width of 80.)
 https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-mdrfcdiff.html (comprehensive md 
diff)
 https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-mdauth48diff.html (AUTH48 md diff)
 https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-mdlastdiff.html (last version to 
this one)

We will now await approvals of the content from David M. Oliver and Jonathan 
Hoyland.

Best regards,
RFC Editor/ap


> On Feb 4, 2025, at 4:08 PM, David Schinazi <dschinazi.i...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Alanna!
> 
> I went through the document in detail, and I think the changes look great. I 
> made three small tweaks to your version, and uploaded them here:
> https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/commit/03cd6dc3b6588b30a40ce74f59843ed96a15555c
> 
> Apart from that, I think this is good to go.
> 
> Doing the review in markdown made it incredibly seamless. I have a couple 
> incredibly minor points about the markdown diff:
> https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-mdrfcdiff.html
> 
> 1) it points out a change in the lines surrounding diagrams/sourcecode 
> blocks: it says that "~~" was changed to "~~~" even though both versions 
> contain "~~~".
> 2) it seems to be set to a column width of 78. That causes a few lines to 
> wrap for documents where we use a width of 80 (which I think is the default?).
> 
> Thanks!
> David
> 
> On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 1:53 PM Alanna Paloma <apal...@staff.rfc-editor.org> 
> wrote:
> Hi David,
> 
> Thank you for your reply.  We have updated as requested.
> 
> > 4) <!-- [rfced] We see that the capitalization of "Key ID" is inconsistent. 
> > Please let how we should update it.
> > -->
> > 
> > I think the inconsistency is intentional: "key ID" refers to the concept, 
> > whereas "Key ID" refers to the eponymous field in the Key Exporter Context 
> > structure. Does that work or do you think it reduces clarity?
> 
> ) Thank you for clarifying. The reasoning makes sense, and it should be clear 
> enough from the context within the document. We have left the capitalization 
> as is.
> 
> 
> The updated files have been posted here (please refresh):
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729.md
> 
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-diff.html (comprehensive text 
> diff)
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-auth48diff.html (AUTH48 text 
> diff)
> 
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-mdrfcdiff.html (comprehensive md 
> diff side-by-side)
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-mdauth48diff.html (AUTH48 md 
> diff side-by-side)
> 
> 
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> you may have.  Note that we do not make changes once a document is published 
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> 
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> 
> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9729
> 
> Thank you,
> RFC Editor/ap
> 
> > On Feb 3, 2025, at 7:43 PM, David Schinazi <dschinazi.i...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > Hi RFC Editor(s),
> > 
> > First off, I really wanted to thank you for doing this AUTH48 in markdown - 
> > it's a huge life improvement :-)
> > 
> > Please find answers to your questions inline below. Let me know when you've 
> > incorporated those and I'll do a full pass of the document as soon as I can 
> > in the next few days.
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > David
> > 
> > On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 12:18 PM <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org> wrote:
> > Authors,
> > 
> > While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) 
> > the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
> > 
> > 1) <!-- [rfced] FYI, we have added the following sentence to Section 1.1
> > ("Conventions and Definitions") in order to include a citation for RFC 8792 
> > in the text. Please let us know of any objections.
> > 
> > Current:
> >    Various examples in this document contain long lines that may be folded,
> >    as described in [RFC8792].
> > -->
> > 
> > Sounds good.
> > 
> > 2) <!--[rfced] Throughout the text, "Concealed HTTP authentication scheme" 
> > and "Concealed authentication scheme" appear to be used inconsistently. 
> > Please review these occurrences and let us know if/how they be made 
> > consistent. Some examples are listed here:
> > 
> > Original:
> >    When a client wishes to use the Concealed HTTP authentication scheme
> >    with a request, it SHALL compute the authentication proof using a TLS
> >    keying material exporter with the following parameters:
> >    ...
> >    If a frontend is configured to check the Concealed authentication
> >    scheme, it will parse the Authorization (or Proxy-Authorization)
> >    header field.
> > -->
> > 
> > I think that the defining statement at the start of section 2
> > <<This document defines the "Concealed" HTTP authentication scheme.>>
> > should include "HTTP" to be extra clear when defining it. I'm happy for all 
> > other uses to be consistent.
> > So maybe we make them all <<Concealed HTTP authentication scheme>>?
> > 
> > 3) <!-- [rfced] Please review sourcecode types within the markdown file, 
> > and let us know if they should be set and/or have been set correctly.
> > 
> > The current list of preferred values for sourcecode types is available at
> > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rpc/wiki/doku.php?id=sourcecode-types>.
> > If the current list does not contain an applicable type, feel free to
> > suggest additions for consideration. Note that it is also acceptable
> > to leave the sourcecode type not set.
> > -->
> > 
> > They look correct to me. It might be useful to define a new type for the 
> > QUIC presentation format given how common it's becoming (since we have one 
> > for the TLS presentation format), but for this document those can stay 
> > empty since it doesn't exist yet.
> > 
> > 4) <!-- [rfced] We see that the capitalization of "Key ID" is inconsistent. 
> > Please let how we should update it.
> > -->
> > 
> > I think the inconsistency is intentional: "key ID" refers to the concept, 
> > whereas "Key ID" refers to the eponymous field in the Key Exporter Context 
> > structure. Does that work or do you think it reduces clarity?
> > 
> > 5) <!--[rfced] As "Signature Algorithm" is being used in a general way and 
> > not as a field name, may we make it lowercase in this sentence?
> > 
> > Original:
> >    The encoding of the public key is determined by the Signature
> >    Algorithm in use as follows:
> > 
> > Perhaps:
> >    The encoding of the public key is determined by the signature
> >    algorithm in use as follows:
> > -->
> > 
> > Agreed, that one's not the field name so lowercase makes sense.
> > 
> > 6) <!--[rfced] For clarity, may we update "which" to "that" here? It 
> > depends on the intended meaning, as noted below.
> > 
> > Original:
> >    The public key is an RSAPublicKey structure
> >    [PKCS1] encoded in DER [X.690].  BER encodings which are not DER
> >    MUST be rejected.
> > 
> > Perhaps (restrictive "that", meaning some BER encodings):
> >    The public key is an RSAPublicKey structure
> >    [PKCS1] encoded in DER [X.690].  BER encodings that are not DER
> >    MUST be rejected.
> > 
> > Or (nonrestrictive "which", meaning all BER encodings):
> >    The public key is an RSAPublicKey structure
> >    [PKCS1] encoded in DER [X.690].  BER encodings, which are not DER,
> >    MUST be rejected.
> > -->
> > 
> > You're correct, let's use "that" here. Some BER encodings are DER, and 
> > those are valid and must not be rejected.
> > 
> > 7) <!-- [rfced] We having difficulty parsing the following sentence.
> > Does the key ID authenticate or does the client?
> > 
> > Current:
> >    For example, the key ID "basement" authenticating using Ed25519
> >    [ED25519] could produce the following header field
> > 
> > Perhaps:
> >    For example, a client authenticating with the key ID "basement"
> >    and using Ed25519 [ED25519] could produce the following header
> >    field
> > -->
> > 
> > You're correct that the key ID doesn't authenticate. However, 
> > "authenticate" is somewhat annoying as a verb in that the concept of "the 
> > client is proving to the server that it is who it says it is" can be said 
> > as "the server authenticated the client" or "the client authenticated to 
> > the server" - and not everyone agrees that they're both valid. How about we 
> > sidestep the issue with something like this:
> > <<For example, a client using the key ID "basement" and the signature 
> > algorithm Ed25519 [ED25519] could produce the following header field:>>
> > 
> > 8) <!-- [rfced] RFC 8941 has been obsoleted by RFC 9651.  May we replace 
> > RFC 8941 with RFC 9651?
> > -->
> > 
> > Yes, please.
> > 
> > 9) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the 
> > online Style Guide 
> > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language> and let 
> > us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this nature typically result 
> > in more precise language, which is helpful for readers.
> > -->
> > 
> > I didn't find any instances of non inclusive language, but let me know if 
> > you noticed any.
> > 
> > 10) <!--[rfced] References. May we add the following URL to this reference 
> > for the ease of the reader?
> > 
> > https://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-X.690
> > 
> > Current:
> > 
> >    [X.690]    ITU-T, "Information technology - ASN.1 encoding Rules:
> >               Specification of Basic Encoding Rules (BER), Canonical
> >               Encoding Rules (CER) and Distinguished Encoding Rules
> >               (DER)", ITU-T Recommendation X690, ISO/IEC 8825-1:2021,
> >               February 2021.
> > -->
> > 
> > Sounds good.
> > 
> > Thank you.
> > 
> > RFC Editor/ap/jm
> > 
> > 
> > On 1/31/25 2:14 PM, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote:
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> > --------------------------------------
> > RFC9729 (draft-ietf-httpbis-unprompted-auth-12)
> > 
> > Title            : The Concealed HTTP Authentication Scheme
> > Author(s)        : D. Schinazi, D. Oliver, J. Hoyland
> > WG Chair(s)      : Mark Nottingham, Tommy Pauly
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