Hi David, > 1) IANA registries. I see that the links to the registries no longer include > the anchor that points to the registry. Was that intentional?
Yes, this was intentional. This update was made per guidance from IANA that that only the short version of the URL should be used. Please see the Web Portion of the Style Guide <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#ref_iana_reg> and IANA’s Guidance for RFC Authors <https://www.iana.org/help/protocol-registration> for more information. > 2) The MASQUE-ORIGINAL reference was changed from draft-schinazi-masque-00 to > draft-schinazi-masque-02. Please revert to draft-schinazi-masque-00. The goal > here is to show the earliest prior art, so we intentionally want the older > version. -02 is particularly wrong because the auth component had been > removed at that point. We reverted this update to point to draft-schinazi-masque-00. ... The files have been posted here (please refresh): https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729.xml https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729.txt https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729.html https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729.pdf Best regards, RFC Editor/ap > On Feb 11, 2025, at 2:13 PM, David Schinazi <dschinazi.i...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Alanna, > > I looked at the diff between the version we reviewed and the latest one, and > found some unexpected changes. > > 1) IANA registries. I see that the links to the registries no longer include > the anchor that points to the registry. Was that intentional? > > 2) The MASQUE-ORIGINAL reference was changed from draft-schinazi-masque-00 to > draft-schinazi-masque-02. Please revert to draft-schinazi-masque-00. The goal > here is to show the earliest prior art, so we intentionally want the older > version. -02 is particularly wrong because the auth component had been > removed at that point. > > Thanks, > David > > On Tue, Feb 11, 2025 at 1:32 PM Alanna Paloma <apal...@staff.rfc-editor.org> > wrote: > Authors, > > We have noted Jonathan’s approval on the AUTH48 status page: > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9729 > > As the content of the document has been approved, we now ask that each author > review and approve of the formatting in the output files below. > > The files have been posted here (please refresh): > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729.xml > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729.txt > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729.html > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729.pdf > > Once we have receive approval of the formatting, we will move this document > forward in the publication process. > > Best regards, > RFC Editor/ap > > > On Feb 11, 2025, at 8:00 AM, Jonathan Hoyland <jonathan.hoyl...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > Hi Alanna, > > I've just gone through the document again, and you have my approval too. > > Thanks, > > Jonathan > > > > On Mon, 10 Feb 2025, 16:32 Alanna Paloma, <apal...@staff.rfc-editor.org> > > wrote: > > Hi David, > > > > Thank you for your reply. Your approval has been noted: > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9729 > > > > We await Jonathan’s approval of the content. > > > > Best regards, > > RFC Editor/ap > > > > > On Feb 9, 2025, at 7:56 AM, David Oliver <da...@guardianproject.info> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Wonderful. You have my approval on the recent updates on RFC9729. > > > > > > David M. Oliver | da...@guardianproject.info | > > > https://guardianproject.info | @davidmoliver | +1 970 368 2366 > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2025 at 12:49 PM Alanna Paloma > > > <apal...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote: > > > Hi David, > > > > > > Thank you for your reply. We have updated the files with your additional > > > tweaks and noted your approval on the AUTH48 status page: > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9729 > > > > > > The updated files have been posted here (please refresh): > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729.md > > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-diff.html (comprehensive text > > > diff) > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-auth48diff.html (AUTH48 text > > > diff) > > > > > > (Note: We have adjusted the wrapping to now have a width of 80.) > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-mdrfcdiff.html (comprehensive > > > md diff) > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-mdauth48diff.html (AUTH48 md > > > diff) > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-mdlastdiff.html (last version > > > to this one) > > > > > > We will now await approvals of the content from David M. Oliver and > > > Jonathan Hoyland. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > RFC Editor/ap > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 4, 2025, at 4:08 PM, David Schinazi <dschinazi.i...@gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks Alanna! > > > > > > > > I went through the document in detail, and I think the changes look > > > > great. I made three small tweaks to your version, and uploaded them > > > > here: > > > > https://github.com/httpwg/http-extensions/commit/03cd6dc3b6588b30a40ce74f59843ed96a15555c > > > > > > > > Apart from that, I think this is good to go. > > > > > > > > Doing the review in markdown made it incredibly seamless. I have a > > > > couple incredibly minor points about the markdown diff: > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-mdrfcdiff.html > > > > > > > > 1) it points out a change in the lines surrounding diagrams/sourcecode > > > > blocks: it says that "~~" was changed to "~~~" even though both > > > > versions contain "~~~". > > > > 2) it seems to be set to a column width of 78. That causes a few lines > > > > to wrap for documents where we use a width of 80 (which I think is the > > > > default?). > > > > > > > > Thanks! > > > > David > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 4, 2025 at 1:53 PM Alanna Paloma > > > > <apal...@staff.rfc-editor.org> wrote: > > > > Hi David, > > > > > > > > Thank you for your reply. We have updated as requested. > > > > > > > > > 4) <!-- [rfced] We see that the capitalization of "Key ID" is > > > > > inconsistent. Please let how we should update it. > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > I think the inconsistency is intentional: "key ID" refers to the > > > > > concept, whereas "Key ID" refers to the eponymous field in the Key > > > > > Exporter Context structure. Does that work or do you think it reduces > > > > > clarity? > > > > > > > > ) Thank you for clarifying. The reasoning makes sense, and it should be > > > > clear enough from the context within the document. We have left the > > > > capitalization as is. > > > > > > > > > > > > The updated files have been posted here (please refresh): > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729.md > > > > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-diff.html (comprehensive > > > > text diff) > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-auth48diff.html (AUTH48 > > > > text diff) > > > > > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-mdrfcdiff.html > > > > (comprehensive md diff side-by-side) > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9729-mdauth48diff.html (AUTH48 > > > > md diff side-by-side) > > > > > > > > > > > > Please review the document carefully and contact us with any further > > > > updates you may have. Note that we do not make changes once a document > > > > is published as an RFC. > > > > > > > > We will await approvals from each author of the content in the markdown > > > > prior to converting the markdown to RFCXML and asking each authors to > > > > review and approve the final files. > > > > > > > > For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see: > > > > https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9729 > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > RFC Editor/ap > > > > > > > > > On Feb 3, 2025, at 7:43 PM, David Schinazi <dschinazi.i...@gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hi RFC Editor(s), > > > > > > > > > > First off, I really wanted to thank you for doing this AUTH48 in > > > > > markdown - it's a huge life improvement :-) > > > > > > > > > > Please find answers to your questions inline below. Let me know when > > > > > you've incorporated those and I'll do a full pass of the document as > > > > > soon as I can in the next few days. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > David > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, Jan 31, 2025 at 12:18 PM <rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org> wrote: > > > > > Authors, > > > > > > > > > > While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as > > > > > necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file. > > > > > > > > > > 1) <!-- [rfced] FYI, we have added the following sentence to Section > > > > > 1.1 > > > > > ("Conventions and Definitions") in order to include a citation for > > > > > RFC 8792 in the text. Please let us know of any objections. > > > > > > > > > > Current: > > > > > Various examples in this document contain long lines that may be > > > > > folded, > > > > > as described in [RFC8792]. > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > Sounds good. > > > > > > > > > > 2) <!--[rfced] Throughout the text, "Concealed HTTP authentication > > > > > scheme" and "Concealed authentication scheme" appear to be used > > > > > inconsistently. Please review these occurrences and let us know > > > > > if/how they be made consistent. Some examples are listed here: > > > > > > > > > > Original: > > > > > When a client wishes to use the Concealed HTTP authentication > > > > > scheme > > > > > with a request, it SHALL compute the authentication proof using a > > > > > TLS > > > > > keying material exporter with the following parameters: > > > > > ... > > > > > If a frontend is configured to check the Concealed authentication > > > > > scheme, it will parse the Authorization (or Proxy-Authorization) > > > > > header field. > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > I think that the defining statement at the start of section 2 > > > > > <<This document defines the "Concealed" HTTP authentication scheme.>> > > > > > should include "HTTP" to be extra clear when defining it. I'm happy > > > > > for all other uses to be consistent. > > > > > So maybe we make them all <<Concealed HTTP authentication scheme>>? > > > > > > > > > > 3) <!-- [rfced] Please review sourcecode types within the markdown > > > > > file, and let us know if they should be set and/or have been set > > > > > correctly. > > > > > > > > > > The current list of preferred values for sourcecode types is > > > > > available at > > > > > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rpc/wiki/doku.php?id=sourcecode-types>. > > > > > If the current list does not contain an applicable type, feel free to > > > > > suggest additions for consideration. Note that it is also acceptable > > > > > to leave the sourcecode type not set. > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > They look correct to me. It might be useful to define a new type for > > > > > the QUIC presentation format given how common it's becoming (since we > > > > > have one for the TLS presentation format), but for this document > > > > > those can stay empty since it doesn't exist yet. > > > > > > > > > > 4) <!-- [rfced] We see that the capitalization of "Key ID" is > > > > > inconsistent. Please let how we should update it. > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > I think the inconsistency is intentional: "key ID" refers to the > > > > > concept, whereas "Key ID" refers to the eponymous field in the Key > > > > > Exporter Context structure. Does that work or do you think it reduces > > > > > clarity? > > > > > > > > > > 5) <!--[rfced] As "Signature Algorithm" is being used in a general > > > > > way and not as a field name, may we make it lowercase in this > > > > > sentence? > > > > > > > > > > Original: > > > > > The encoding of the public key is determined by the Signature > > > > > Algorithm in use as follows: > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps: > > > > > The encoding of the public key is determined by the signature > > > > > algorithm in use as follows: > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > Agreed, that one's not the field name so lowercase makes sense. > > > > > > > > > > 6) <!--[rfced] For clarity, may we update "which" to "that" here? It > > > > > depends on the intended meaning, as noted below. > > > > > > > > > > Original: > > > > > The public key is an RSAPublicKey structure > > > > > [PKCS1] encoded in DER [X.690]. BER encodings which are not DER > > > > > MUST be rejected. > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps (restrictive "that", meaning some BER encodings): > > > > > The public key is an RSAPublicKey structure > > > > > [PKCS1] encoded in DER [X.690]. BER encodings that are not DER > > > > > MUST be rejected. > > > > > > > > > > Or (nonrestrictive "which", meaning all BER encodings): > > > > > The public key is an RSAPublicKey structure > > > > > [PKCS1] encoded in DER [X.690]. BER encodings, which are not DER, > > > > > MUST be rejected. > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > You're correct, let's use "that" here. Some BER encodings are DER, > > > > > and those are valid and must not be rejected. > > > > > > > > > > 7) <!-- [rfced] We having difficulty parsing the following sentence. > > > > > Does the key ID authenticate or does the client? > > > > > > > > > > Current: > > > > > For example, the key ID "basement" authenticating using Ed25519 > > > > > [ED25519] could produce the following header field > > > > > > > > > > Perhaps: > > > > > For example, a client authenticating with the key ID "basement" > > > > > and using Ed25519 [ED25519] could produce the following header > > > > > field > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > You're correct that the key ID doesn't authenticate. However, > > > > > "authenticate" is somewhat annoying as a verb in that the concept of > > > > > "the client is proving to the server that it is who it says it is" > > > > > can be said as "the server authenticated the client" or "the client > > > > > authenticated to the server" - and not everyone agrees that they're > > > > > both valid. How about we sidestep the issue with something like this: > > > > > <<For example, a client using the key ID "basement" and the signature > > > > > algorithm Ed25519 [ED25519] could produce the following header > > > > > field:>> > > > > > > > > > > 8) <!-- [rfced] RFC 8941 has been obsoleted by RFC 9651. May we > > > > > replace RFC 8941 with RFC 9651? > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > Yes, please. > > > > > > > > > > 9) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the > > > > > online Style Guide > > > > > <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language> and > > > > > let us know if any changes are needed. Updates of this nature > > > > > typically result in more precise language, which is helpful for > > > > > readers. > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > I didn't find any instances of non inclusive language, but let me > > > > > know if you noticed any. > > > > > > > > > > 10) <!--[rfced] References. May we add the following URL to this > > > > > reference for the ease of the reader? > > > > > > > > > > https://www.itu.int/rec/T-REC-X.690 > > > > > > > > > > Current: > > > > > > > > > > [X.690] ITU-T, "Information technology - ASN.1 encoding Rules: > > > > > Specification of Basic Encoding Rules (BER), Canonical > > > > > Encoding Rules (CER) and Distinguished Encoding Rules > > > > > (DER)", ITU-T Recommendation X690, ISO/IEC 8825-1:2021, > > > > > February 2021. > > > > > --> > > > > > > > > > > Sounds good. > > > > > > > > > > Thank you. > > > > > > > > > > RFC Editor/ap/jm > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 1/31/25 2:14 PM, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote: > > > > > *****IMPORTANT***** > > > > > > > > > > Updated 2025/01/31 > > > > > > > > > > RFC Author(s): > > > > > -------------- > > > > > > > > > > Instructions for Completing AUTH48 > > > > > > > > > > Your document has now entered AUTH48. 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