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*Zahed, please review the Abstract and let us know if you approve the removal of some wording that was unclear. The change can be viewed below and in this file: https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9737-auth48diff.html. Abstract Original: During the recovery phase of startup, the metadata server and the data servers work together to recover state (which files are open, last modification time, size, etc.). Current: During the recovery phase of startup, the MDS and the DSs work together to recover state. [From Thomas]: "We don’t expand on the state in the body of the document, so this should suffice”. —FILES— The updated XML file is here: https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9737.xml The updated output files are here: https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9737.txt https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9737.pdf https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9737.html These diff files show all changes made during AUTH48: https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9737-auth48diff.html https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9737-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by side) This diff files show all changes made to date: https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9737-diff.html https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9737-rfcdiff.html (side by side) Note that it may be necessary for you to refresh your browser to view the most recent version. Please review the document carefully to ensure satisfaction as we do not make changes once it has been published as an RFC. 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For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see: https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9737 Best regards, RFC Editor/kc > On Feb 6, 2025, at 6:05 PM, Thomas Haynes <log...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> On Feb 6, 2025, at 4:29 PM, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote: >> >> Authors, >> >> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) >> the following questions, which are also in the XML file. >> >> 1) <!--[rfced] Title and Short Title >> >> a) May we update the document title for conciseness by >> removing "of" and rephrasing the text to reflect that >> the errors are reported "in NFSv4" as shown below? > > > Yes > >> >> b) May we update the short title that spans the header >> of the PDF file to more closely match the document title >> as shown below? >> > > > Yes > >> c) We note that "LAYOUTRETURN" is mentioned in the title but >> not in the Abstract or Introduction. Should "LAYOUTRETURN" >> be included to those sections for consistency with the title? >> If so, please provide the desired text. > > Abstract: > > > This document presents an > extension to RFC8435 to allow the client to update the metadata > and avoid the resilvering. > > becomes > > This document presents an > extension to RFC8435 to allow the client to update the metadata via > LAYOUTRETURN > and avoid the resilvering. > > > > I’m fine with the Introduction not mentioning LAYOUTRETURN as we immediately > dive into it in the next Section. > > >> >> Document Title >> Original: >> Reporting of Errors via LAYOUTRETURN in NFSv4.2 >> >> Perhaps: >> Reporting Errors in NFSv4.2 via LAYOUTRETURN >> >> ... >> Short Title >> Original: >> LAYOUT_RECOVERY >> >> Perhaps: >> Reporting Errors via LAYOUTRETURN >> --> >> >> >> 2) <!--[rfced] We note that "MDS" and "DS" are expanded as "metadata >> server" and "data server", respectively, in RFC 8435. May we >> expand these terms in the Abstract as shown below (option A) to >> match RFC 8435? >> >> After these terms are expanded, would you like to use the abbreviations? >> There are 37 instances of "metadata server" and 2 instances of >> "data server". If not, and it is desired to have the term written out, >> should "MDS" and "DS" simply be removed since they are not used elsewhere >> in the document (option B)? Please let us know your preference. >> > > I’m not a big fan of the abbreviations, but it seems that RFC8881 does use > them. > > So yes, please the abbreviations once the terms are expanded. > > > > >> Original: >> The Parallel Network File System (pNFS) allows for a file's metadata >> (MDS) and data (DS) to be on different servers. When the metadata >> server is restarted, the client can still modify the data file >> component. During the recovery phase of startup, the metadata server >> and the data servers work together to recover state (which files are >> open, last modification time, size, etc.). >> >> Perhaps A: >> The Parallel Network File System (pNFS) allows for a file's metadata >> and data to be on different servers (i.e., the metadata server (MDS) >> and the data server (DS)). >> > > > A > > >> or >> >> Perhaps B: >> The Parallel Network File System (pNFS) allows for a file's metadata >> and data to be on different servers. >> --> >> >> >> 3) <!--[rfced] Please clarify "which files are open, last modification >> time, size, etc.)". Are these files used by the servers during >> the recovery phase? >> >> Original: >> During the recovery phase of startup, the metadata server >> and the data servers work together to recover state >> (which files are open, last modification time, size, etc.). >> >> Perhaps: >> During the recovery phase of startup, the metadata server >> and the data servers work together to recover state >> (the files used are "open", "last modification time", >> "size", etc.). >> --> >> > > > I’m struggling with fixing this one. I think it would be fine to rewrite it > as: > > During the > recovery phase of startup, the metadata server and the > data servers work together to recover state. > > We don’t expand on the state in the body of the document, so this should > suffice. > > >> >> 4) <!--[rfced] We are having trouble parsing this sentence. Are >> words missing after "when a lrf_stateid with the value of the >> anonymous stateid of all zeros", or should "when a lrf_stateid" >> perhaps be "with an lrf_stateid"? Please review and let us >> know how we may clarify. >> >> Original: >> Also, when the metadata server builds the reply to the LAYOUTRETURN >> when a lrf_stateid with the value of the anonymous stateid of all >> zeros it MUST NOT bump the seqid of the lorr_stateid. >> >> Perhaps: >> Also, when the metadata server builds the reply to the LAYOUTRETURN >> with an lrf_stateid with an anonymous stateid value of all >> zeros, it MUST NOT bump the seqid of the lorr_stateid. >> --> >> > > > I agree the original sentence is hard to parse. > > I am fine with the proposed change. > > > > >> >> 5) <!-- [rfced] We note that the following terms appear as lowercase in >> FCs 8435 and 8881. Should these terms be made lowercase to match >> se in those RFCs? >> >> Flexible File Layout >> Flexible File Layout Type >> --> >> > > > Yes > > > >> >> 6) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the online >> Style Guide <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language> >> and let us know if any changes are needed. Updates of this nature typically >> result in more precise language, which is helpful for readers. >> >> Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this should >> still be reviewed as a best practice. > > > Nice link, I think we are safe in this document. > > > >> --> >> >> >> Thank you. >> >> RFC Editor/kc >> >> >> On Feb 6, 2025, at 4:27 PM, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote: >> >> *****IMPORTANT***** >> >> Updated 2025/02/06 >> >> RFC Author(s): >> -------------- >> >> Instructions for Completing AUTH48 >> >> Your document has now entered AUTH48. 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