Hi Chandra,

Thank you for your reply. We have updated the files accordingly and noted your 
approval on the AUTH48 status page:
https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9705

Once we receive approvals from Tarek, Ina, and Dante, we will move this 
document forward in the publication process.

The files have been posted here (please refresh):
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https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9705.html
https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9705.pdf

The relevant diff files have been posted here:
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https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9705-auth48diff.html (AUTH48 changes)
https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9705-lastdiff.html (htmlwdiff diff 
between last version and this)
https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9705-lastrfcdiff.html (rfcdiff between 
last version and this)

Best regards,
RFC Editor/ap


> On Jan 30, 2025, at 9:59 AM, Chandrasekar Ramachandran <cse...@juniper.net> 
> wrote:
> 
> Apologies for the delay. After going through the document, there is only one 
> comment. Even though we initially agreed to replace "RSVP" with "RSVP-TE" 
> when referring to "refresh interval independent RSVP", the replacement does 
> not seem to be apt in the following text. RFC 8370 contains only "RSVP" in 
> all references to "refresh interval independent RSVP".
> 
> The suggestion is to revert to "RSVP" in all the below mentioned locations.
> 
> (1)
> Section 4.6.1 Detecting Support for Refresh-Interval Independent RSVP-TE FRR
> 
> (2)
> 4.6.  Backward Compatibility Procedures
> 
>        "Refresh-Interval Independent RSVP-TE FRR" and "RI-RSVP-FRR" refer 
> to...
> 
> There is no further comment other than the above. Thanks a lot for patient 
> editing of the document.
> 
> Thanks,
> Chandra.
> 
> 
> Juniper Business Use Only
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Alanna Paloma <apal...@staff.rfc-editor.org>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2025 10:46 PM
>> To: Chandrasekar Ramachandran <cse...@juniper.net>; ts...@cisco.com;
>> inami...@google.com; dante.j.pace...@verizon.com
>> Cc: rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org; mpls-...@ietf.org; mpls-cha...@ietf.org;
>> n.leym...@telekom.de; james.n.guich...@futurewei.com;
>> auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9705 <draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr-22> for your
>> review
>> 
>> [External Email. Be cautious of content]
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>> Thank you,
>> RFC Editor/ap
>> 
>>> On Jan 23, 2025, at 8:30 AM, Alanna Paloma <apal...@staff.rfc-editor.org>
>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Authors,
>>> 
>>> This is another friendly reminder that we await your reviews and approvals
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>>> 
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>>> 
>>>> On Jan 16, 2025, at 12:49 PM, Alanna Paloma <apal...@staff.rfc-
>> editor.org> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Authors,
>>>> 
>>>> This is a friendly reminder that we await your reviews and approvals of the
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>>>> 
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>>>> 
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>>>> Thank you,
>>>> RFC Editor/ap
>>>> 
>>>>> On Jan 9, 2025, at 10:59 AM, Alanna Paloma <apal...@staff.rfc-
>> editor.org> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Chandra,
>>>>> 
>>>>> The files have been updated per your request.
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> We will await any further changes you may have and approvals from each
>> author prior to moving forward in the publication process.
>>>>> 
>>>>> [Note that my email address has changed from <apal...@amsl.com> to
>>>>> <apal...@staff.rfc-editor.org>.]
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>> RFC Editor/ap
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jan 9, 2025, at 8:11 AM, Chandrasekar Ramachandran
>> <csekar=40juniper....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Please find a few more comments below. I am going through the
>> document fully once again and will provide a final list of comments (if any) 
>> on
>> Monday.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Abstract:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Facility backup method allow one or more LSPs traversing...
>>>>>> should be
>>>>>> Facility backup method allows one or more LSPs traversing...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Security Considerations:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> The security considerations pertaining to the original RSVP
>>>>>> protocols ([RFC2205], [RFC3209], and [RFC5920]) remain relevant.
>>>>>> should be
>>>>>> The security considerations pertaining to the original RSVP
>>>>>> protocol ([RFC2205], [RFC3209], and [RFC5920]) remain relevant.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> b) Should "RSVP" be added to the title for consistency with the
>>>>>>>> rest of the document and the abbreviated title?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>> Refresh-interval Independent FRR Facility Protection
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Current:
>>>>>>>> Refresh-Interval Independent Fast Reroute (FRR) Facility
>>>>>>>> Protection
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>>> Refresh-Interval Independent RSVP Fast Reroute (RI-RSVP-FRR)
>>>>>>>> Facility Protection
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [CR] To keep the name consistent with RFC 4090 and RFC 8370, it
>>>>>>> can be RSVP- TE.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> NEW:
>>>>>>> Refresh-Interval Independent RSVP-TE Fast Reroute Facility
>>>>>>> Protection
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On the earlier discussion (shown above) on whether "RSVP" should be
>> added for which we provided a comment to make it "RSVP-TE", it will be
>> better to keep it as "RSVP" as you suggested because that is the convention
>> used in RFC 8370.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Chandra.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Juniper Business Use Only
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: Alanna Paloma <apal...@amsl.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 7, 2025 6:01 AM
>>>>>>> To: Chandrasekar Ramachandran <cse...@juniper.net>
>>>>>>> Cc: rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org; ts...@cisco.com;
>>>>>>> inami...@google.com; dante.j.pace...@verizon.com;
>>>>>>> mpls-...@ietf.org; mpls-cha...@ietf.org; n.leym...@telekom.de;
>>>>>>> james.n.guich...@futurewei.com; auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9705
>>>>>>> <draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr-22> for your review
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> [External Email. Be cautious of content]
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi Chandra,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you for your reply.  We have updated as requested.
>>>>>>> 
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>> changes)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Please review the document carefully and contact us with any
>>>>>>> further updates you may have.  Note that we do not make changes
>>>>>>> once a document is published as an RFC.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> We will await approvals from each party listed on the AUTH48
>>>>>>> status page below prior to moving this document forward in the
>> publication process.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> For the AUTH48 status of this document, please see:
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>>>>>>> gSHhCAQNrB5_iTsKfND9wzggggVyJzUI4xyP_pDM6vQ$
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank you,
>>>>>>> RFC Editor/ap
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2025, at 8:51 AM, Chandrasekar Ramachandran
>>>>>>> <csekar=40juniper....@dmarc.ietf.org> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Please find our responses inline.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Chandra.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> Cc: rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org; mpls-...@ietf.org;
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>>>>>>>>> james.n.guich...@futurewei.com; auth48archive@rfc-editor.org
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9705
>>>>>>>>> <draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr-22> for your review
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> [External Email. Be cautious of content]
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Authors,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as
>>>>>>>>> necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 1) <!-- [rfced] Please review the following questions and
>>>>>>>>> changes regarding this document's title:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> a) FYI - Abbreviations have been expanded per Section 3.6 of RFC
>>>>>>>>> 7322 ("RFC Style Guide").
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> b) Should "RSVP" be added to the title for consistency with the
>>>>>>>>> rest of the document and the abbreviated title?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>> Refresh-interval Independent FRR Facility Protection
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Current:
>>>>>>>>> Refresh-Interval Independent Fast Reroute (FRR) Facility
>>>>>>>>> Protection
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>>>> Refresh-Interval Independent RSVP Fast Reroute (RI-RSVP-FRR)
>>>>>>>>> Facility Protection
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [CR] To keep the name consistent with RFC 4090 and RFC 8370, it
>>>>>>>> can be
>>>>>>> RSVP-TE.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> NEW:
>>>>>>>> Refresh-Interval Independent RSVP-TE Fast Reroute Facility
>>>>>>>> Protection
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that
>>>>>>>>> appear in the
>>>>>>>>> title) for use on https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.rfc-
>>>>>>>>> editor.org/search__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!FM2VL8WYKZ4l-
>>>>>>> zDnXFEMT1bMvVmTs-
>>>>>>>>> 
>> E1_Al7pzTrypczYwOa9zufdnM4Qo4xmCWUhUKQDOal5wQIaaUoCPHz-SQ$
>>>>>>> . -
>>>>>>>>> ->
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [CR] "ri-rsvp-frr" - both upper and lower cases
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 3) <!-- [rfced] Should the first bullet be separated into two
>>>>>>>>> separate bullets because it contains two separate problems?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>> The use of Refresh messages to
>>>>>>>>> cover many possible failures has resulted in a number of
>>>>>>>>> operational problems.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -  One problem relates to RSVP control plane scaling due to
>>>>>>>>> periodic  refreshes of Path and Resv messages, another relates
>>>>>>>>> to the  reliability and latency of RSVP signaling.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -  An additional problem is the time to clean up the stale state
>>>>>>>>> after a tear message is lost.  For more on these problems see
>>>>>>>>> Section 1 of RSVP Refresh Overhead Reduction Extensions
>> [RFC2961].
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>>>> The use of Refresh messages to
>>>>>>>>> cover many possible failures has resulted in a number of
>>>>>>>>> operational problems.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> *  One problem relates to RSVP control plane scaling due to
>>>>>>>>> periodic  refreshes of Path and Resv messages
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> *  Another problem relates to the relates to the reliability and
>>>>>>>>> latency of  RSVP signaling.  reliability and latency of RSVP 
>>>>>>>>> signaling.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> *  An additional problem is the time to clean up the stale state
>>>>>>>>> after a tear message is lost.  For more on these problems see
>>>>>>>>> Section 1 of [RFC2961].
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [CR] The authors are fine with the proposed text.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 4) <!--[rfced] To clarify this document's relation to [RFC2961],
>>>>>>>>> may we update this sentence as follows?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>> Therefore, this document makes support for [RFC2961] a pre-
>> requisite.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>>>> Therefore, [RFC2961] is a prerequisite for this document.
>>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [CR] The authors are fine with the proposed text.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 5) <!-- [rfced] Please review the following questions and
>>>>>>>>> changes regarding Section 2 ("Terminology").
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> a) The terminology list contains a mixture of both abbreviations
>>>>>>>>> and definitions. For consistency and readability, may we
>>>>>>>>> separate definitions and abbreviations into two different lists?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> b) May we update some list items for a more accurate and 1:1
>>>>>>>>> relationship between an abbreviation and its expansion? Please
>>>>>>>>> see examples in the "Perhaps" text below.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> c) In addition, the format of some definition items may suggest
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> "router"
>>>>>>>>> and "node" can be used interchangeably (see some examples
>> below).
>>>>>>>>> Please review and confirm if this is accurate. May we update the
>>>>>>>>> terms as suggested below?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Originals:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Phop node: Previous-hop router along the label switched path
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> MP: Merge Point router as defined in [RFC4090]
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> LP-MP node: Merge Point router at the tail of Link-Protecting
>>>>>>>>> bypass tunnel
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps (a few examples):
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> PHOP: Previous-Hop (can refer to a router or node along the LSP)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> MP: Merge Point (can refer to a router as defined in [RFC4090])
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> LP-MP: Link-Protecting Merge Point (can refer to a router or
>>>>>>>>> node at the tail of a Link-Protecting bypass tunnel)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> d) FYI - We have added expansions for Path State Block (PSB) and
>>>>>>>>> Reservation State Block (RSB) to this terminology list to avoid
>>>>>>>>> expanding them inside of the definition of "LSP state". Please
>>>>>>>>> review and let us know if there are additional abbreviations or
>>>>>>>>> terminology used in this document (such as LSP, FRR, etc.) that
>>>>>>>>> you would like to add to
>>>>>>> this terminology list.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [CR] All proposed changes to Terminology Section look good.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 6) <!-- [rfced] How may we update "has been configured to be
>>>>>>>>> long of the order of minutes" for clarity?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>> Assume that refresh interval has been configured to be long of
>>>>>>>>> the order
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> minutes and refresh reduction extensions are enabled on all routers.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>>>> Assume that refresh interval has been configured to be as long
>>>>>>>>> as the
>>>>>>> order
>>>>>>>>> of minutes and that refresh reduction extensions are enabled on
>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> routers.
>>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [CR] The authors are fine with the proposed text.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 7) <!-- [rfced] How may we update this section title to avoid
>>>>>>>>> using an RFC number as an adjective?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 4.1.  Requirement on RFC 4090 Capable Node to advertise RI-RSVP
>>>>>>>>> Capability
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps (remove RFC number):
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 4.1.  Requirement for Capable Nodes to Advertise the RI-RSVP
>>>>>>>>> Capability
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps (keep RFC number):
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 4.1.  Requirement for Capable Nodes from RFC 4090 to Advertise
>>>>>>>>> the RI-RSVP Capability
>>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [CR] Both the changes proposed does not convey that the specific
>>>>>>> requirement in the section is for 4090 capable nodes.
>>>>>>>> Does the following look better?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> NEW:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 4.1.  Requirement for RFC 4090 Capable Nodes to Advertise the
>>>>>>>> RI-RSVP Capability
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 8) <!-- [rfced] Can the second sentence in the text below be
>>>>>>>>> made more concise, as it mostly contains repeated information
>>>>>>>>> from the previous sentence?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -  The PLR MUST also include its router ID in a Node-ID
>>>>>>>>> sub-object in  RRO object carried in any subsequent Path message
>>>>>>>>> corresponding to  the LSP.  While including its router ID in the
>>>>>>>>> Node-ID sub-object  carried in the outgoing Path message, the
>>>>>>>>> PLR MUST include the  Node-ID sub-object after including its
>>>>>>>>> IPv4/IPv6 address or  unnumbered interface ID sub-object.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> *  The PLR MUST also include its router ID in a Node-ID
>>>>>>>>> sub-object in  the RRO object that is carried in any subsequent
>>>>>>>>> Path message  corresponding to the LSP.  While doing so, the PLR
>>>>>>>>> MUST include the Node-ID sub-object after including its
>>>>>>>>> IPv4/IPv6  address or unnumbered interface ID sub-object.
>>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [CR] The authors are fine with the proposed text.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 9) <!-- [rfced] May we update the text below to improve readability?
>>>>>>>>> In particular, how may we clarify what the MP "sets" the I-bit to?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If the MP has set the I-bit in the CAPABILITY object [RFC8370]
>>>>>>>>> carried  in Hello message corresponding to the Node-ID based
>>>>>>>>> Hello session,
>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>> the PLR MUST conclude that the MP supports refresh- interval
>>>>>>>>> independent  FRR procedures defined in this document.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The PLR MUST conclude that the MP  supports the
>>>>>>>>> refresh-interval independent FRR procedures defined in  this
>>>>>>>>> document if the MP has set the I-bit in the CAPABILITY object
>>>>>>>>> [RFC8370] (carried in the Hello message) to correspond with the
>>>>>>>>> Node-  ID-based Hello session.
>>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [CR] As the text above only applies to the I-bit in the
>>>>>>>> CAPABILITY object
>>>>>>> carried in the Hello message corresponding to the Node-ID based
>>>>>>> hello session, the following text will be the correct one.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> NEW:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The PLR MUST conclude that the MP  supports the refresh-interval
>>>>>>>> independent FRR procedures defined in  this document if the MP
>>>>>>>> has set the I-bit in the CAPABILITY object  [RFC8370] carried in
>>>>>>>> the Hello message corresponding to the Node-  ID-based Hello
>>>>>>>> session.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 10) <!-- [rfced] FYI - There are a number of instances
>>>>>>>>> throughout the document where we have updated text to be
>>>>>>>>> formatted as a bulleted list to improve readability.
>>>>>>>>> Please review these instances and let us know of any objections.
>>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [CR] Most changes are good except for the ones listed below.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> (CR-i)  Abstract
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> OLD: Facility backup method allows one or more LSPs
>>>>>>>> PROPOSED: Facility backup methods allow one or more LSPs
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "Facility backup" is a mechanism defined by RFC 4090 and so
>>>>>>>> plural should
>>>>>>> not be used for that.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> OLD: The many-to-one nature of local repair technique
>>>>>>>> PROPOSED: The many-to-one nature of local repair techniques
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Same as the previous comment on "facility backup" method.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> OLD: timeout and hence make facility backup method
>>>>>>>> PROPOSED: timeout, hence, making facility backup methods
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> It should be "facility backup method".
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> (CR-ii) 4. Solution Aspects
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> OLD: introduce PLR and MP procedures to establish Node-ID based
>>>>>>>> hello session between
>>>>>>>> PROPOSED: introduce PLR and MP procedures to establish
>>>>>>>> Node-ID-based Hello sessions between
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There will be only one node-id based Hello session between a PLR
>>>>>>>> and MP
>>>>>>> pair.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> (CR-iii) 4.4.  Conditional PathTear
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> OLD:
>>>>>>>> In the example provided in Section 4.3.3 of this document, B
>>>>>>>> deletes the PSB and RSB states corresponding to the LSP once B
>>>>>>>> detects its Phop link went down as B is not an MP.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> PROPOSED:
>>>>>>>> In the example provided in Section 4.3.3 of this document, B
>>>>>>>> deletes the PSB and RSB states corresponding to the LSP once B
>>>>>>>> detects its Phop link that went down as B is not an MP.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Instead of adding "that", should the text be the following?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> CR-NEW:
>>>>>>>> In the example provided in Section 4.3.3 of this document, B
>>>>>>>> deletes the PSB and RSB states corresponding to the LSP once B
>>>>>>>> detects its Phop link has gone down as B is not an MP.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 11) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have updated the text as follows to
>>>>>>>>> improve readability.
>>>>>>>>> Please let us know of any objections or if any further updates are
>> needed.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Now when A-B link fails, as B is not an MP and its Phop link has
>>>>>>>>> failed, B will delete the LSP state (this behavior is required
>>>>>>>>> for unprotected LSPs - refer to Section 4.3.1 of this document).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Current:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Now, when the A-B link fails, B will delete the LSP state,
>>>>>>>>> because B is not an MP and its Phop link has failed (this
>>>>>>>>> behavior is required for unprotected LSPs; refer to Section 4.3.1 of
>> this document).
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [CR] The authors are fine with the proposed text.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 12) <!-- [rfced] As all other fields are defined following
>>>>>>>>> Figure 2, should the Length field also have an entry?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Current:
>>>>>>>>>  0                   1                   2                   3
>>>>>>>>>  0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0
>>>>>>>>> 1
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+
>>>>>>>>> --+--+--+--+--
>>>>>>> +--+--+--+--+--+--+-
>>>>>>>>> |          Length               |  Class        |     C-type    |
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+
>>>>>>>>> --+--+--+--+--
>>>>>>> +--+--+--+--+--+--+-
>>>>>>>>> |                  Flags (Reserved)                           |M|
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--
>>>>>>>>> +--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+-
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>                   Figure 2: CONDITIONS Object
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Class:  135
>>>>>>>>> C-type:  1
>>>>>>>>> Flags:  32 bit field
>>>>>>>>> M:  Bit 31 is the Merge-point condition (M) bit.  If the M bit
>>>>>>>>> is set  to 1, then the PathTear message MUST be processed
>>>>>>>>> according to the  receiver router role, i.e., if the receiving
>>>>>>>>> router is an MP or  not for the LSP.  If it is not set, then the
>>>>>>>>> PathTear message MUST  be processed as a normal PathTear
>> message for the LSP.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [CR] The authors are fine with the proposed text. Length need not
>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> explicitly defined because it is the same for all RSVP objects.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 13) <!-- [rfced] May we provide additional context or lead-in
>>>>>>>>> text for the list below?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Consider that B-C link goes down on the same example topology
>>>>>>>>> (Figure 1).  As C is the NP-MP for the PLR A, C will retain LSP
>>>>>>>>> state.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 1.  The LSP is preempted on C.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 2.  C will delete the RSB state...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Consider that the B-C link goes down on the same example
>>>>>>>>> topology (Figure 1).  As C is the NP-MP for the PLR A, C will
>>>>>>>>> retain LSP state. This means:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 1.  The LSP is preempted on C.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 2.  C will delete the RSB state...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [CR] The inclusion of "This means:" will not convey the intended
>>>>>>>> meaning
>>>>>>> here. The first paragraph starting with "If an LSP is preempted on
>>>>>>> an NP-MP after its Phop link..." specifies the behavior in general
>>>>>>> upon an event, and the rest of the Section 4.5.3.2 intends to
>>>>>>> convey what will happen in the event of preemption in a specific
>> condition.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 14) <!-- [rfced] To reflect usage in RFC 8370, may we update
>>>>>>>>> 'the flag "Refresh interval Independent RSVP" or RI-RSVP flag'
>>>>>>>>> below as
>>>>>>> follows?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> An implementation supporting RI-RSVP-FRR extensions MUST set the
>>>>>>>>> flag "Refresh interval Independent RSVP" or RI-RSVP flag in the
>>>>>>>>> CAPABILITY object carried in Hello messages as specified in
>>>>>>>>> RSVP-TE Scaling Techniques [RFC8370].
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> An implementation supporting RI-RSVP-FRR extensions MUST set the
>>>>>>>>> RI- RSVP
>>>>>>>>> Capable flag in the CAPABILITY object carried in Hello messages
>>>>>>>>> as specified in RSVP-TE Scaling Techniques [RFC8370].
>>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [CR] The authors are fine with the proposed text.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 15) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have updated the following text to
>>>>>>>>> match similar introductory text from the previous section.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The procedures are as follows.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Current:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> The procedures on the upstream direction are as follows:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [CR] The authors are fine with the proposed text.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 16) <!-- [rfced] For clarity, may we update the text below as follows?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> So, the implementations
>>>>>>>>> SHOULD provide the option to configure Node-ID neighbor specific
>>>>>>>>> or global authentication key to authentication messages received
>>>>>>>>> from Node-ID neighbors.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Therefore, the implementations SHOULD provide the option to
>>>>>>>>> configure either a specific neighbor or global Node-ID
>>>>>>>>> authentication key to authentication messages received from
>>>>>>>>> Node-ID neighbors.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [CR] The authors are fine with the proposed text.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 17) <!-- [rfced] Please review the following questions and
>>>>>>>>> changes regarding the terminology used in this document.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> a) We note some instances where "RSVP" is not included in
>>>>>>>>> "Refresh-Interval Independent FRR" (in the document title and
>>>>>>>>> elsewhere). For consistency, should "RSVP" be added to these
>> instances?
>>>>>>> Some examples are listed below.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Original:
>>>>>>>>> 4.6.1.  Detecting Support for Refresh interval Independent FRR
>>>>>>>>> ...
>>>>>>>>> "Refresh interval Independent FRR" or RI-RSVP-FRR refers to the
>>>>>>>>> set of procedures defined in this document to...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>>>>>> 4.6.1.  Detecting Support for Refresh-Interval Independent RSVP
>>>>>>>>> FRR ...
>>>>>>>>> "Refresh-Interval Independent RSVP FRR", or RI-RSVP-FRR, refers
>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>> of procedures defined in this document to...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [CR] The proposed changes look good with the proviso related to
>> "RSVP-TE"
>>>>>>> in place of RSVP (see the response to comment #1 earlier).
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> b) To parallel usage in RFC 4090, may we update the
>>>>>>>>> capitalization of the terms below throughout this document?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Phop  > PHOP
>>>>>>>>> PPhop > PPHOP
>>>>>>>>> Nhop  > NHOP
>>>>>>>>> NNhop > NNHOP
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [CR] The proposed changes above look good.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> c) To parallel usage in RFC 8796, may we update the
>>>>>>>>> capitalization of the terms below throughout this document?
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Association source > Association Source  B-SFRR-Ready Extended
>>>>>>>>> Association object > B-SFRR-Ready Extended ASSOCIATION object
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [CR] The proposed changes above look good.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> d) Should instances of "RRO object" and "LSP path" be updated to
>>>>>>>>> simply read "RRO" and "LSP" to avoid redundancy? If expanded,
>>>>>>>>> "RRO object" would read as "Record Route Object object" and "LSP
>> path"
>>>>>>>>> would read as "Label Switched Path path". Please review and let
>>>>>>>>> us know if any updates are needed.
>>>>>>>>> -->
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [CR] The proposed changes to "RRO object" and "LSP path" look
>>>>>>>> good
>>>>>>> except for the following text in Section 4.5.3.2. The word "path"
>>>>>>> in this text refers to the "path message" and not the "label switched
>> path".
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 4.  B starts backup LSP signaling to D.  But  However, as D does not
>> have
>>>>>>>>  the LSP state, it will reject the backup LSP Path and send a
>>>>>>>>  PathErr to B.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 18) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion
>>>>>>>>> of the online Style Guide
>>>>>>>>> <https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.rfc-
>>>>>>>>> editor.org/styleguide/part2/*inclusive_language__;Iw!!NEt6yMaO-
>>>>>>>>> gk!FM2VL8WYKZ4l-zDnXFEMT1bMvVmTs-
>>>>>>>>> 
>> E1_Al7pzTrypczYwOa9zufdnM4Qo4xmCWUhUKQDOal5wQIaaUoKz17HEE$
>>>>>>>> and let
>>>>>>>>> us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this nature
>>>>>>>>> typically result in more precise language, which is helpful for 
>>>>>>>>> readers.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but
>>>>>>>>> this should still be reviewed as a best practice. -->
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [CR] The authors have taken into consideration this aspect of the
>>>>>>>> language
>>>>>>> from the initial versions.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor/kf/ap
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Dec 19, 2024, at 4:28 PM, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> *****IMPORTANT*****
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Updated 2024/12/19
>>>>>>>>> 
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>>>>>>>>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.rfc-
>>>>>>>>> editor.org/authors/rfc9705.txt__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!FM2VL8WYKZ4l-
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>> E1_Al7pzTrypczYwOa9zufdnM4Qo4xmCWUhUKQDOal5wQIaaUoLiVrrDQ$
>>>>>>>>> (side by side)
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>>>>>>>>> Diff of the XML:
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>>>>>>>>> fc970
>>>>>>>>> 5-
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>> zDnXFEMT1bMvVmTs-
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>> E1_Al7pzTrypczYwOa9zufdnM4Qo4xmCWUhUKQDOal5wQIaaUoHvtwQhI$
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Tracking progress
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>>>>>>>>> The details of the AUTH48 status of your document are here:
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>>>>>>>>> editor.org/auth48/rfc9705__;!!NEt6yMaO-gk!FM2VL8WYKZ4l-
>>>>>>>>> zDnXFEMT1bMvVmTs-
>>>>>>>>> 
>> E1_Al7pzTrypczYwOa9zufdnM4Qo4xmCWUhUKQDOal5wQIaaUoJm6CZos$
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Please let us know if you have any questions.
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>>>>>>>>> Thank you for your cooperation,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> RFC Editor
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>>>>>>> RFC9705 (draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr-22)
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Title            : Refresh-interval Independent FRR Facility 
>>>>>>>>> Protection
>>>>>>>>> Author(s)        : C. Ramachandran, T. Saad, I. Minei, D. Pacella
>>>>>>>>> WG Chair(s)      : Nicolai Leymann, Tarek Saad, Tony Li
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Area Director(s) : Jim Guichard, John Scudder, Gunter Van de
>>>>>>>>> Velde
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>> 
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