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> On Dec 19, 2024, at 4:49 PM, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote:
> 
> Authors,
> 
> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) 
> the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
> 
> 1) <!-- [rfced] Please review the following questions and changes regarding 
> this
> document's title:
> 
> a) FYI - Abbreviations have been expanded per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC
> Style Guide").
> 
> b) Should "RSVP" be added to the title for consistency with the rest of the
> document and the abbreviated title?
> 
> Original:
>   Refresh-interval Independent FRR Facility Protection
> 
> Current:
>   Refresh-Interval Independent Fast Reroute (FRR) Facility Protection
> 
> Perhaps:
>   Refresh-Interval Independent RSVP Fast Reroute (RI-RSVP-FRR) Facility 
> Protection
> 
> -->
> 
> 
> 2) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in
> the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. -->
> 
> 
> 3) <!-- [rfced] Should the first bullet be separated into two separate bullets
> because it contains two separate problems?
> 
> Original:
>   The use of Refresh messages to
>   cover many possible failures has resulted in a number of operational
>   problems.
> 
>   -  One problem relates to RSVP control plane scaling due to periodic
>      refreshes of Path and Resv messages, another relates to the
>      reliability and latency of RSVP signaling.
> 
>   -  An additional problem is the time to clean up the stale state
>      after a tear message is lost.  For more on these problems see
>      Section 1 of RSVP Refresh Overhead Reduction Extensions [RFC2961].
> 
> Perhaps:
>   The use of Refresh messages to
>   cover many possible failures has resulted in a number of operational
>   problems.
> 
>   *  One problem relates to RSVP control plane scaling due to periodic
>      refreshes of Path and Resv messages
> 
>   *  Another problem relates to the relates to the reliability and latency of
>      RSVP signaling.  reliability and latency of RSVP signaling.
> 
>   *  An additional problem is the time to clean up the stale state
>      after a tear message is lost.  For more on these problems see
>      Section 1 of [RFC2961].
> 
> -->
> 
> 
> 4) <!--[rfced] To clarify this document's relation to [RFC2961], may we 
> update this sentence as follows?
> 
> Original:
>   Therefore, this document makes support for [RFC2961] a pre-requisite.
> 
> Perhaps:
>   Therefore, [RFC2961] is a prerequisite for this document.
> -->
> 
> 
> 5) <!-- [rfced] Please review the following questions and changes regarding
> Section 2 ("Terminology").
> 
> a) The terminology list contains a mixture of both abbreviations and
> definitions. For consistency and readability, may we separate definitions and
> abbreviations into two different lists?
> 
> b) May we update some list items for a more accurate and 1:1 relationship
> between an abbreviation and its expansion? Please see examples in the
> "Perhaps" text below.
> 
> c) In addition, the format of some definition items may suggest that "router"
> and "node" can be used interchangeably (see some examples below). Please 
> review and confirm if this is accurate. May we update the terms as suggested
> below?
> 
> Originals:
> 
>   Phop node: Previous-hop router along the label switched path
> 
>   MP: Merge Point router as defined in [RFC4090]
> 
>   LP-MP node: Merge Point router at the tail of Link-Protecting bypass tunnel
> 
> Perhaps (a few examples):
> 
>   PHOP: Previous-Hop (can refer to a router or node along the LSP) 
> 
>   MP: Merge Point (can refer to a router as defined in [RFC4090]) 
> 
>   LP-MP: Link-Protecting Merge Point (can refer to a router or node at the
>   tail of a Link-Protecting bypass tunnel)
> 
> d) FYI - We have added expansions for Path State Block (PSB) and Reservation
> State Block (RSB) to this terminology list to avoid expanding them inside of
> the definition of "LSP state". Please review and let us know if there are
> additional abbreviations or terminology used in this document (such as LSP,
> FRR, etc.) that you would like to add to this terminology list.
> 
> -->
> 
> 
> 6) <!-- [rfced] How may we update "has been configured to be long of the 
> order of
> minutes" for clarity?
> 
> Original:
>   Assume that refresh interval has been configured to be long of the order of
>   minutes and refresh reduction extensions are enabled on all routers.
> 
> Perhaps:
>   Assume that refresh interval has been configured to be as long as the order
>   of minutes and that refresh reduction extensions are enabled on all routers.
> -->
> 
> 
> 7) <!-- [rfced] How may we update this section title to avoid using an RFC 
> number
> as an adjective?
> 
> Original:
> 
>     4.1.  Requirement on RFC 4090 Capable Node to advertise RI-RSVP Capability
> 
> Perhaps (remove RFC number):
> 
>     4.1.  Requirement for Capable Nodes to Advertise the RI-RSVP Capability
> 
> Perhaps (keep RFC number):
> 
>     4.1.  Requirement for Capable Nodes from RFC 4090 to Advertise the
>     RI-RSVP Capability
> -->
> 
> 
> 8) <!-- [rfced] Can the second sentence in the text below be made more 
> concise,
> as it mostly contains repeated information from the previous sentence?
> 
> Original:
> 
>   -  The PLR MUST also include its router ID in a Node-ID sub-object in
>      RRO object carried in any subsequent Path message corresponding to
>      the LSP.  While including its router ID in the Node-ID sub-object
>      carried in the outgoing Path message, the PLR MUST include the
>      Node-ID sub-object after including its IPv4/IPv6 address or
>      unnumbered interface ID sub-object.
> 
> Perhaps:
> 
>   *  The PLR MUST also include its router ID in a Node-ID sub-object in
>      the RRO object that is carried in any subsequent Path message
>      corresponding to the LSP.  While doing so, the PLR
>      MUST include the Node-ID sub-object after including its IPv4/IPv6
>      address or unnumbered interface ID sub-object.
> -->
> 
> 
> 9) <!-- [rfced] May we update the text below to improve readability? In 
> particular,
> how may we clarify what the MP "sets" the I-bit to?
> 
> Original:
> 
>      If the MP has set the I-bit in the CAPABILITY object [RFC8370] carried
>      in Hello message corresponding to the Node-ID based Hello session, then
>      the PLR MUST conclude that the MP supports refresh- interval independent
>      FRR procedures defined in this document.
> 
> Perhaps:
> 
>      The PLR MUST conclude that the MP
>      supports the refresh-interval independent FRR procedures defined in
>      this document if the MP has set the I-bit in the CAPABILITY object
>      [RFC8370] (carried in the Hello message) to correspond with the Node-
>      ID-based Hello session.
> -->
> 
> 
> 10) <!-- [rfced] FYI - There are a number of instances throughout the 
> document where
> we have updated text to be formatted as a bulleted list to improve 
> readability.
> Please review these instances and let us know of any objections.
> -->
> 
> 
> 11) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have updated the text as follows to improve 
> readability.
> Please let us know of any objections or if any further updates are needed.
> 
> Original:
> 
>   Now when A-B link fails, as B is not an
>   MP and its Phop link has failed, B will delete the LSP state (this
>   behavior is required for unprotected LSPs - refer to Section 4.3.1 of
>   this document).
> 
> Current:
> 
>   Now, when the A-B link fails, B will delete the LSP state, because B is not
>   an MP and its Phop link has failed (this behavior is required for
>   unprotected LSPs; refer to Section 4.3.1 of this document).
> 
> -->
> 
> 
> 12) <!-- [rfced] As all other fields are defined following Figure 2, should
> the Length field also have an entry?
> 
> Current:
>       0                   1                   2                   3
>       0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 0 1
>      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>      |          Length               |  Class        |     C-type    |
>      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
>      |                  Flags (Reserved)                           |M|
>      +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+
> 
>                        Figure 2: CONDITIONS Object
> 
>   Class:  135
>   C-type:  1
>   Flags:  32 bit field
>   M:  Bit 31 is the Merge-point condition (M) bit.  If the M bit is set
>      to 1, then the PathTear message MUST be processed according to the
>      receiver router role, i.e., if the receiving router is an MP or
>      not for the LSP.  If it is not set, then the PathTear message MUST
>      be processed as a normal PathTear message for the LSP.
> 
> -->
> 
> 
> 13) <!-- [rfced] May we provide additional context or lead-in text for the
> list below?
> 
> Original:
> 
>   Consider that B-C link goes down on the same example topology
>   (Figure 1).  As C is the NP-MP for the PLR A, C will retain LSP
>   state.
> 
>   1.  The LSP is preempted on C.
> 
>   2.  C will delete the RSB state...
> 
> Perhaps:
> 
>   Consider that the B-C link goes down on the same example topology
>   (Figure 1).  As C is the NP-MP for the PLR A, C will retain LSP
>   state. This means:
> 
>   1.  The LSP is preempted on C.
> 
>   2.  C will delete the RSB state... 
> 
> -->
> 
> 
> 14) <!-- [rfced] To reflect usage in RFC 8370, may we update 'the flag        
>         
> "Refresh interval Independent RSVP" or RI-RSVP flag' below as follows?
> 
> Original:
> 
>   An implementation supporting RI-RSVP-FRR extensions MUST set the flag
>   "Refresh interval Independent RSVP" or RI-RSVP flag in the CAPABILITY
>   object carried in Hello messages as specified in RSVP-TE Scaling
>   Techniques [RFC8370].  
> 
> Perhaps:
> 
>   An implementation supporting RI-RSVP-FRR extensions MUST set the RI-RSVP
>   Capable flag in the CAPABILITY object carried in Hello messages as
>   specified in RSVP-TE Scaling Techniques [RFC8370].
> -->
> 
> 
> 15) <!-- [rfced] FYI - We have updated the following text to match similar
> introductory text from the previous section.
> 
> Original:
> 
>   The procedures are as follows.
> 
> Current:
> 
>   The procedures on the upstream direction are as follows:
> 
> -->
> 
> 
> 16) <!-- [rfced] For clarity, may we update the text below as follows?
> 
> Original:
> 
>   So, the implementations
>   SHOULD provide the option to configure Node-ID neighbor specific or
>   global authentication key to authentication messages received from
>   Node-ID neighbors. 
> 
> Perhaps:
> 
>   Therefore, the implementations SHOULD provide the option to configure 
> either a
>   specific neighbor or global Node-ID authentication key to authentication
>   messages received from Node-ID neighbors.
> 
> -->
> 
> 
> 17) <!-- [rfced] Please review the following questions and changes regarding 
> the
> terminology used in this document.  
> 
> a) We note some instances where "RSVP" is not included in "Refresh-Interval
> Independent FRR" (in the document title and elsewhere). For consistency,
> should "RSVP" be added to these instances?  Some examples are listed below.
> 
> Original:
>   4.6.1.  Detecting Support for Refresh interval Independent FRR
>   ...
>   "Refresh interval Independent FRR" or RI-RSVP-FRR refers to the set
>   of procedures defined in this document to...
> 
> Perhaps:
>   4.6.1.  Detecting Support for Refresh-Interval Independent RSVP FRR
>   ...
>   "Refresh-Interval Independent RSVP FRR", or RI-RSVP-FRR, refers to the set
>   of procedures defined in this document to...
> 
> 
> b) To parallel usage in RFC 4090, may we update the capitalization of the 
> terms below
> throughout this document?
> 
> Phop  > PHOP
> PPhop > PPHOP
> Nhop  > NHOP
> NNhop > NNHOP
> 
> 
> c) To parallel usage in RFC 8796, may we update the capitalization of the 
> terms below
> throughout this document?
> 
> Association source > Association Source
> B-SFRR-Ready Extended Association object > B-SFRR-Ready Extended ASSOCIATION 
> object
> 
> 
> d) Should instances of "RRO object" and "LSP path" be updated to simply read
> "RRO" and "LSP" to avoid redundancy? If expanded, "RRO object" would read as
> "Record Route Object object" and "LSP path" would read as "Label Switched 
> Path path". Please review and let us know if any updates are needed.
> -->
> 
> 
> 18) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the online 
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> and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this nature typically
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> 
> Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this should 
> still be reviewed as a best practice. -->
> 
> 
> Thank you.
> 
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> 
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> RFC9705 (draft-ietf-mpls-ri-rsvp-frr-22)
> 
> Title            : Refresh-interval Independent FRR Facility Protection
> Author(s)        : C. Ramachandran, T. Saad, I. Minei, D. Pacella
> WG Chair(s)      : Nicolai Leymann, Tarek Saad, Tony Li
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