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> On Nov 4, 2024, at 3:54 PM, Megan Ferguson <mfergu...@amsl.com> wrote:
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> 
>> On Oct 21, 2024, at 9:58 AM, Megan Ferguson <mfergu...@amsl.com> wrote:
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>>> On Oct 4, 2024, at 12:38 PM, Megan Ferguson <mfergu...@amsl.com> wrote:
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>>> Greetings,
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>>>> On Sep 23, 2024, at 3:06 PM, Megan Ferguson <mfergu...@amsl.com> wrote:
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>>>> Authors,
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>>>>> On Aug 12, 2024, at 10:27 PM, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Authors,
>>>>> 
>>>>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as 
>>>>> necessary) the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1) <!--[rfced] In the Abstract, may we clarify "it" as follows?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Original:
>>>>> It also defines its use with several RTP payloads for scalable media
>>>>> formats.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>> This document also defines the use of LRR with several RTP payloads
>>>>> for scalable media formats.
>>>>> -->
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2) <!--[rfced] May we update the following to clarify the antecedent of
>>>>>   "it" and break up the long sentence?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Original:
>>>>> 
>>>>> This memo describes an RTCP [RFC3550] Payload-Specific Feedback
>>>>> Message [RFC4585] "Layer Refresh Request" (LRR).  It is designed to
>>>>> allow a receiver of a layered media stream to request that one or more
>>>>> of its substreams be refreshed, such that it can then be decoded by an
>>>>> endpoint which previously was not receiving those layers, without
>>>>> requiring that the entire stream be refreshed (as it would be if the
>>>>> receiver sent a Full Intra Request (FIR); [RFC5104] see also
>>>>> [RFC8082]).
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>> This memo describes an RTCP [RFC3550] Payload-Specific Feedback
>>>>> Message [RFC4585] "Layer Refresh Request" (LRR), which is designed to
>>>>> allow a receiver of a layered media stream to request that one or more
>>>>> of its substreams be refreshed.  As such, it can then be decoded by an
>>>>> endpoint that previously was not receiving those layers, without
>>>>> requiring that the entire stream be refreshed (as it would be if the
>>>>> receiver sent a Full Intra Request (FIR); [RFC5104] see also
>>>>> [RFC8082]).
>>>>> 
>>>>> -->
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3) <!--[rfced] We had the following questions regarding Section 2.
>>>>>   Section 2 was titled "Conventions, Definitions, and Acronyms".
>>>>>   It contains the BCP 14 boilerplate and a single subsection that
>>>>>   is titled "Terminology".
>>>>> 
>>>>> a) There is no list of acronyms in this section.  Please review our
>>>>> updates to the title of this section and let us know any objections
>>>>> (of if a list of abbreviations was missing).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Original:
>>>>> Conventions, Definitions and Acronyms
>>>>> 
>>>>> Current:
>>>>> Conventions and Terminology
>>>>> 
>>>>> b) We see several terms throughout the document that it may be useful
>>>>> to include in this section (as they are seemingly introduced in
>>>>> sections that follow).  For example:
>>>>> 
>>>>> temporally nested
>>>>> Layer Index
>>>>> temporal ID
>>>>> layer ID
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please let us know if you'd like to add any terms to the Terminology
>>>>> section.
>>>>> -->
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 4) <!--[rfced] Please review if the slash in the following to see if
>>>>>   "and", "or", or "and/or" might be clearer.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Original:
>>>>> A sender MAY request an upgrade in both temporal and spatial/quality
>>>>> layers simultaneously.
>>>>> -->
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 5) <!-- [rfced] Please review whether any of the notes in this document
>>>>>   should be in the <aside> element. It is defined as "a container
>>>>>   for content that is semantically less important or tangential to
>>>>>   the content that surrounds it"
>>>>>   (https://authors.ietf.org/en/rfcxml-vocabulary#aside).
>>>>> -->
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 6) <!--[rfced] In the text below, are you referring to the title of the
>>>>>   document?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Original:
>>>>> If the payload also specifies how it is used with the Frame Marking
>>>>> RTP Header Extension [I-D.ietf-avtext-framemarking], the syntax MUST
>>>>> be defined in the same manner as the TID and LID fields in that
>>>>> header.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Perhaps:
>>>>> If the payload also specifies how it is used with "Video Frame Marking
>>>>> RTP Header Extension" [RFC9626], the syntax MUST be defined in the
>>>>> same manner as the TID and LID fields in that header.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Or perhaps:
>>>>> If the payload also specifies how it is used with the [Video?] Frame
>>>>> Marking RTP Header Extension described in [RFC9626], the syntax MUST
>>>>> be defined in the same manner as the TID and LID fields in that
>>>>> header.
>>>>> -->
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 7) <!--[rfced] Section 3.7 of RFC 7656 is not titled "RTP Taxonomy" but
>>>>>   instead "Layered Multi-Stream".  Please review this citation for
>>>>>   clarity/accuracy.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Original:
>>>>> The RTP Taxonomy [RFC7656] Section 3.7 defines three mechanisms:
>>>>> Single RTP Stream on a Single Media Transport (SRST), Multiple RTP
>>>>> Streams on a Single Media Transport (MRST), and Multiple RTP Streams
>>>>> on Multiple Media Transports (MRMT).
>>>>> 
>>>>> Perhaps (caps also edited to match RFC 7656):
>>>>> Section 3.7 of "The RTP Taxonomy" [RFC7656] defines three mechanisms:
>>>>> Single RTP stream on a Single media Transport (SRST), Multiple RTP
>>>>> streams on a Single media Transport (MRST), and Multiple RTP streams
>>>>> on Multiple media Transports (MRMT).
>>>>> -->
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 8) <!--[rfced] In the following, please clarify the antecedent of "it".
>>>>> 
>>>>> Original:
>>>>> For MRMT, it is sent on the RTP session on which this stream is sent.
>>>>> -->
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 9)  <!--[rfced] We note that only Figure 9 has a title.  Please review if
>>>>>    you would like all figures to have titles (and supply them) or
>>>>>    if the title of Figure 9 should be removed for consistency. -->
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 10) <!--[rfced] We had the following questions related to the
>>>>>   abbreviations and initialisms used throughout the document:
>>>>> 
>>>>> a) In the following equation, will it be clear to the reader what TO
>>>>> and TN refer to?
>>>>> 
>>>>> TID = TO and target TID = TN
>>>>> 
>>>>> If these are abbreviations, they should be expanded on first use (per
>>>>> RFC 7322).
>>>>> 
>>>>> b) We see:
>>>>> 
>>>>> CLID - Current Layer ID
>>>>> 
>>>>> and also Current Layer Index (or current layer indices or layer
>>>>> indices)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please review these occurrences and let us know if they should be made
>>>>> uniform.
>>>>> 
>>>>> c) We have expanded these abbreviations as follows.  Please let us
>>>>> know any objections.
>>>>> 
>>>>> FCI - Feedback Control Information
>>>>> SSRC - Synchronization Source
>>>>> PLI - Picture Loss Indication
>>>>> NAL - Network Abstraction Layer
>>>>> PACSI - Payload Content Scalability Information
>>>>> IDR -  Instantaneous Decoding Refresh
>>>>> SDP - Session Description Protocol
>>>>> 
>>>>> d) We will update the following to be consistent with the first line
>>>>> (below) in capping and initialism formation throughout the document.
>>>>> We will remove the citations after the first use (outside the
>>>>> Abstract).  Please let us know any objections.
>>>>> 
>>>>> RTCP Payload-Specific Feedback Message
>>>>> RTCP [RFC3550] Payload-Specific Feedback Message [RFC4585]
>>>>> RTP Control Protocol (RTCP) [RFC3550] payload-specific feedback message 
>>>>> RTP Control Protocol (RTCP) [RFC3550] payload-specific feedback message 
>>>>> [RFC4585]
>>>>> 
>>>>> e) FYI: We've updated the usage of "LRR" by adding an article (i.e.,
>>>>> "the" or "an") before it for consistency with the majority of uses in this
>>>>> document (primarily in Sections 3.2 and 4). Please let us know if this
>>>>> is in error.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Original:
>>>>> Upon reception of LRR, the encoder MUST send a..
>>>>> ...
>>>>> In order for LRR to be used with a scalable codec
>>>>> ...
>>>>> Senders which support receiving LRR for non-temporally-nested streams 
>>>>> MUST...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Updated:
>>>>> Upon reception of an LRR, the encoder MUST send a..
>>>>> ...
>>>>> In order for an LRR to be used with a scalable codec
>>>>> ...
>>>>> Senders that support receiving LRRs for non-temporally-nested streams 
>>>>> MUST...
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -->
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 11) <!--[rfced] We had the following questions related to the terminology
>>>>>  used throughout the document.
>>>>> 
>>>>> a) Please review the way field names are treated with regard to
>>>>> capitalization and quotation and let us know if/how they should be
>>>>> made uniform.
>>>>> 
>>>>> For example, we see:
>>>>> 
>>>>> "R" field
>>>>> "RES" field
>>>>> layer index field
>>>>> LayerId field vs. layer ID field vs. LID field (see related cluster query)
>>>>> "media source" field
>>>>> "Current Temporal Layer ID (CTID)" and "Current Layer ID (CLID)" fields
>>>>> payload type field
>>>>> "SSRC of packet sender" field
>>>>> DID, QID, and TID fields
>>>>> -->
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 12) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the
>>>>>   online Style Guide
>>>>>   <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>
>>>>>   and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this
>>>>>   nature typically result in more precise language, which is
>>>>>   helpful for readers.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this
>>>>> should still be reviewed as a best practice.
>>>>> 
>>>>> -->
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thank you.
>>>>> 
>>>>> RFC Editor/mf
>>>>> 
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>>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>>> RFC9627 (draft-ietf-avtext-lrr-07)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Title            : The Layer Refresh Request (LRR) RTCP Feedback Message
>>>>> Author(s)        : J. Lennox, D. Hong, J. Uberti, S. Holmer, M. Flodman
>>>>> WG Chair(s)      : Jonathan Lennox, Rachel Huang
>>>>> Area Director(s) : Murray Kucherawy, Orie Steele
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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