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> On Nov 4, 2024, at 3:54 PM, Megan Ferguson <mfergu...@amsl.com> wrote:
> 
> Authors,
> 
> Please see mail below regarding this document as well as our cluster-wide 
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> 
> This document set has been in AUTH48 since mid-August.  Please let us know if 
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> 
> Thank you.
> 
> RFC Editor/mf
> 
> 
>> On Oct 21, 2024, at 9:58 AM, Megan Ferguson <mfergu...@amsl.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Authors,
>> 
>> Just a ping that this reply from Zahed requires author action.  Please also 
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>> 
>>> On Oct 7, 2024, at 9:31 AM, Zaheduzzaman Sarker 
>>> <zahed.sarker.i...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> For bullet 4 where AD opinion has been asked, I would first like to get the 
>>> opinion from the authors if they are OK with the changes or not. 
>>> 
>>> So, Authors please review the proposed changes in bullet 4 and send your 
>>> opinion.
>>> 
>>> //Zahed
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 23, 2024 at 11:06 PM Megan Ferguson <mfergu...@amsl.com> wrote:
>>> Authors and *AD,
>>> 
>>> Just a friendly weekly reminder that this document awaits your attention.  
>>> Please see the message below as well as our separate email detailing 
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>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Aug 12, 2024, at 10:27 PM, rfc-edi...@rfc-editor.org wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Authors and *AD,
>>>> 
>>>> [AD - please see question 4 below]
>>>> 
>>>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) 
>>>> the following questions, which are also in the XML file.
>>>> 
>>>> 1) <!-- [rfced] Please insert any keywords (beyond those that appear in
>>>> the title) for use on https://www.rfc-editor.org/search. -->
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 2) <!--[rfced] Please review whether "e.g." in the following should
>>>>    instead be "i.e.":
>>>> 
>>>> Original:
>>>> Because of inter-frame dependencies, it should ideally switch video
>>>> streams at a point where the first frame from the new speaker can be
>>>> decoded by recipients without prior frames, e.g. switch on an
>>>> intra-frame.
>>>> 
>>>> -->
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 3) <!--[rfced] Should "field" or some other noun follow
>>>>    "refresh_frame_flags" in this sentence?  Or is this referring to
>>>>    the flags (as the verb "are" is plural)?
>>>> 
>>>> Original:
>>>>  The D bit MUST be 1 if the refresh_frame_flags in the VP9 payload
>>>>  uncompressed header are all 0, otherwise it MUST be 0.
>>>> -->
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 4) <!--[rfced] [*AD] We see several (similar) sentences like the example
>>>>    below where it might be difficult for the reader to correclty
>>>>    understand what part(s) of the sentence the keyword MUST applies
>>>>    to.  We wonder if a rewrite may be helpful to the reader,
>>>>    possibly using a list...  Please see the example below (again,
>>>>    other similar instances exist in the document) and let us know if
>>>>    an update like one of the following might work.
>>>> 
>>>> Original:
>>>> 
>>>>  The D bit MUST be 1 when the NAL unit header NRI field is 0, or an
>>>>  aggregation packet or fragmentation unit encapsulating only NAL units
>>>>  with NRI=0, otherwise it MUST be 0.
>>>> 
>>>> Perhaps A (the "when" clause applies to both the D bit being set to 1 or 
>>>> NRI=0):
>>>> 
>>>> When the NAL unit header NRI field is 0, the D bit MUST be either 1 or
>>>> an aggregation packet or fragmentation unit encapsulating only NAL
>>>> units with NRI=0.  When the NAL unit header NRI field is not set to 0,
>>>> the D bit MUST be 0.
>>>> 
>>>> Perhaps B (the "when" clause only applies to the D bit being 0):
>>>> 
>>>> The D bit MUST be:
>>>> 
>>>> -1 when the NAL unit header NRI field is 0,
>>>> 
>>>> -an aggregation packet or fragmentation unit encapsulating only NAL units
>>>> with NRI=0, or
>>>> 
>>>> - 0.
>>>> 
>>>> -->
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 5) <!-- [rfced] Please review whether any of the notes in this document
>>>> should be in the <aside> element. It is defined as "a container for 
>>>> content that is semantically less important or tangential to the 
>>>> content that surrounds it" 
>>>> (https://authors.ietf.org/en/rfcxml-vocabulary#aside).
>>>> -->
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 6) <!--[rfced] May we update this sentence as follows for the ease of the
>>>>    reader?  Note that the introductory "when" phrase mentions a
>>>>    single frame while the recommendation mentions plural frames:
>>>>    please consider if further updates are necessary.
>>>> 
>>>> Original:
>>>> When an RTP switch needs to discard a received video frame due to
>>>> congestion control considerations, it is RECOMMENDED that it
>>>> preferably drop frames marked with the D (Discardable) bit set, or the
>>>> highest values of TID and LID, which indicate the highest temporal and
>>>> spatial/quality enhancement layers, since those typically have fewer
>>>> dependenices on them than lower layers.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Perhaps A:
>>>> When an RTP switch needs to discard a received video frame due to
>>>> congestion control considerations, it is RECOMMENDED that it drop:
>>>> 
>>>> - frames marked with the D (Discardable) bit set, or
>>>> 
>>>> -frames with the highest values of TID and LID (which indicate the
>>>> highest temporal and spatial/quality enhancement layers) since those
>>>> typically have fewer dependencies on them than lower layers.
>>>> 
>>>> Perhaps B (to upddate the sg/pl switch):
>>>> When an RTP switch needs to discard received video frames due to
>>>> congestion control considerations, it is RECOMMENDED that it drop:
>>>> 
>>>> - frames marked with the D (Discardable) bit set, or
>>>> 
>>>> -frames with the highest values of TID and LID (which indicate the
>>>> highest temporal and spatial/quality enhancement layers) since those
>>>> typically have fewer dependencies on them than lower layers.
>>>> 
>>>> -->
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 7) <!--[rfced] Please clarify what "and forward the same" means in this 
>>>> text.
>>>> 
>>>> Original:
>>>>  When an RTP switch wants to forward a new video stream to a receiver,
>>>>  it is RECOMMENDED to select the new video stream from the first
>>>>  switching point with the I (Independent) bit set in all spatial
>>>>  layers and forward the same.  
>>>> -->
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 8) <!--[rfced] How may we update this text to more easily illustrate the
>>>>    1:1 mapping between initialism and expansion?
>>>> 
>>>> Original:
>>>> ...  source to generate a switching point by sending Full Intra
>>>> Request (RTCP FIR) as defined in [RFC5104]...
>>>> 
>>>> Perhaps:
>>>> ...  source to generate a switching point by sending RTCP Full Intra
>>>> Request (FIR) as defined in [RFC5104]...
>>>> 
>>>> -->
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 9) <!--[rfced] In the following, are "layer" and "refreshes" redundant
>>>>    with what LRR stands for?  Please let us know if any updates are
>>>>    necessary.
>>>> 
>>>> Original:
>>>>  Because frame marking can only be used with temporally-nested
>>>>  streams, temporal-layer LRR refreshes are unnecessary for frame-
>>>>  marked streams.
>>>> 
>>>> As expanded it would be:
>>>> Because frame marking can only be used with temporally nested
>>>> streams, temporal-layer Layer Refresh Request (LRR) refreshes are
>>>> unnecessary for frame-marked streams.
>>>> -->
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 10) <!-- [rfced] Would you like the references to be alphabetized or left
>>>>    in their current order?
>>>> -->
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 11) <!-- [rfced] We had the following questions related to abbreviations
>>>>    used throughout the document.
>>>> 
>>>> a) Please note that we have expanded these abbreviations as follows on
>>>> first use.  Please let us know any objections.
>>>> 
>>>> MCU - Multipoint Control Unit (per RFC 7667)
>>>> SRTP - Secure Real-time Transport Protocol
>>>> IDR - Instantaneous Decoding Refresh (per RFC 6184)
>>>> SDES - source description 
>>>> NAL - Network Abstraction Layer
>>>> CRA - Clean Random Access 
>>>> BLA - Broken Link Access 
>>>> RAP - Random Access Point 
>>>> AVC - Advanced Video Coidng (per RFC 6184)
>>>> SVC - Scalable Video Coding (per RFC 6190)
>>>> PACSI - Payload Content Scalability Information 
>>>> NRI - Network Remote Identification
>>>> VPS - Video Parameter Set 
>>>> SPS - Sequence Parameter Set 
>>>> PPS - Picture Parameter Set 
>>>> 
>>>> b) Please clarify if/how we may expand the following abbreviations:
>>>> 
>>>> VPX
>>>> PACI - is this intentionally different from PACSI?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> c) Should "intra (IDR)" frames instead be "IDR intra-frames"?  This
>>>> formation occurs twice in this document.
>>>> 
>>>> d) Please note that the following similar abbreviations appear to be
>>>> differently treated with regard to punctuation:
>>>> 
>>>> H264 (AVC)
>>>> H264-SVC
>>>> 
>>>> We have expanded the abbreviations on first use, but please let us
>>>> know if/how these should be made uniform with regard to parens and
>>>> hyphantion.
>>>> 
>>>> See also our cluster-wide question regarding H264 vs. H.264.
>>>> -->
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 12) <!--[rfced] We had the following questions related to terminology used
>>>>    throughout the document.
>>>> 
>>>> a) Two questions about the header extension:
>>>> 
>>>> Should this RTP header extension appear using "Video" throughout?  We
>>>> see both of the following forms.
>>>> 
>>>> Video Frame Marking RTP header extension vs. Frame Marking RTP header 
>>>> extension
>>>> 
>>>> Secondly, in the Abstract, we see:
>>>> 
>>>> Original:
>>>>  This document describes a Video Frame Marking RTP header extension
>>>>  used to convey information about video frames that is critical for
>>>>  error recovery and packet forwarding in RTP middleboxes or network
>>>>  nodes.
>>>> 
>>>> Is the use of the indefinite article "a" intentional ("a Video Frame
>>>> Marking RTP header extension")? This seems (possibly) contradictory
>>>> with the capitalization of the proper noun and use in Section 3 (are
>>>> there more types of Video Frame Marking RTP header extensions?).
>>>> Please review.
>>>> -->
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 13) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the
>>>>    online Style Guide
>>>>    <https://www.rfc-editor.org/styleguide/part2/#inclusive_language>
>>>>    and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this
>>>>    nature typically result in more precise language, which is
>>>>    helpful for readers.
>>>> 
>>>> Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this
>>>> should still be reviewed as a best practice.
>>>> 
>>>> -->
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you.
>>>> 
>>>> RFC Editor/mf
>>>> 
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>>>> 
>>>> Updated 2024/08/12
>>>> 
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>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>> RFC9626 (draft-ietf-avtext-framemarking-16)
>>>> 
>>>> Title            : Video Frame Marking RTP Header Extension
>>>> Author(s)        : M. Zanaty, E. Berger, S. Nandakumar
>>>> WG Chair(s)      : Dr. Bernard D. Aboba, Jonathan Lennox
>>>> Area Director(s) : Zaheduzzaman Sarker, Francesca Palombini
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
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