Indmov, I understand your feelings. I too am tired of all this negativity over the CWG song. I urge members to please stop posting nonsense articles that do not contribute any constructive value to this group, but only fuel angry sentiments.
Please stay here. I really value your posts and insights. You contribute so much to this group. I for one know ARR and his music from my heart....I don't need to explain it. If there are any doubters out there, it's only because of their issues, not ARR's. I think Raj was just trying to clarify some issues related to Sukhwinder Singh and not implying that ARR is selfish, at least that's how I interpreted his post. I really value your membership here and please don't leave on account of some noise recently. I know what you're feeling, however. --- In [email protected], Indmov Buff <indmovb...@...> wrote: > > I think I am now on the verge of unsubscribing to this group. There is only > that > much negativity my system can take. The CWG theme song has just opened > Pandora's box with mail after mail and article after article full of just > childish discussions such as the one below. I love AR's music and now > beginning > to think that sharing the love for his music here may no longer be the fun > experience it used to be. I am probably better off just listening > and appreciating his music all by myself. If that's childish, so be it. > > And Raj , yes ARR is a selfish stage hogging arrogant artist who only looks > out > for himself and only himself. > ARR wasn't the first music director in Indian history (EVER) to credit all > the > musicians involved in a soundtrack in the form of a comprehensive credits > list > at the back of a CD. Even a person who hums in a song does not get his/her > due > credit by ARR. Instrumental artists are given a cold shoulder- no mention at > all. And sound engineers. Who are they? If not for AR, the world of Indian > music > would be so advanced and artists would have got their due credit and respect > without being ignored. > > It looks to me that the majority opinion ( from all the e-mails and articles > in > the Indian media that have come through after the CWG theme song), is that > the > Indian music industry would have been a far better place if not for Rahman. > And > that in fact the commonwealth games was not a sporting event but a musical > song > contest. I am not Indian and for the first time I feel a sense of pride in > that. > > > > : Chris Raj <chris78_...@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thu, 9 September, 2010 13:29:50 > Subject: Re: [arr] Sukhwinder problem? > > > Guys, > can anyone pls clarify the following points clearly. > > 1. why suki was not part of oscar if any visa issue then why he was > subsequently ignored by ARR in all stage performance(jaiho song) post > oscar... > 2. post oscar only ARR sings JAIHO without suki and with only tanvi sha and > other lady performars he could have invited suki also ????/ > 3. why sucki didnt get Grammy while others like vijay prakash and Tanvisha > was > part of Grammy , suki is contribution to JAIHO is > huge compared to Viajay prakas and Tanvi sha ?.. is there any intention > on > this issue? why he was not part of Grammy he didnt get any call from grammy > .??? > > 4. why ARR didnt mention suki name in the OSCAR speech while he was > mentioning > all like MIA,blazee etc etc.... > > 5. why suki is not part of JAIHO world tour as currently going on.. where in > the song JAIHO would be perfomed at every concert > does ARR wants to highlight only himself in the song????? show that he > can > be more popular as a pop singer in west?????? > i belive ARR worked with suki in Ravan after this issue then what is > stopping ARR to bring suki on stage for singing JAIHOOOO........in any > stage > > am getting confused with these questions in my mind ... ARR is very humble > and down to earth person and why he did allow this kind of issues happening > ...this is not the question of integrity and this is the question of the > getting > recognanised at the stage like OSCAR ...this kind of oppertunity suki wont > get > again am sure that is why he is crying a lot and making this kind of > statements > especially when ARR failes to impress the people through CWG anthem.... > > Gops or some one kindly clarify ... I LOVE ARR for his work and as a very > good > human being as a role model to many .. this issue is raising lot of questions > in > my mind.... pls clarify > > > Regds > Raj > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: A.R.Rajib <a.r.ra...@...> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Thu, September 9, 2010 4:31:42 PM > Subject: Re: [arr] Sukhwinder problem? > > > Ha Ha ha !! Nice one :P I Never said anyone else mad here except Sukwinder > :P > I dont know the reason behind the statement u gave in this mail :P i just > can > laugh :P > > Anyway ...let's get to the main point..At the time of the Oscars Sukwinder > didnt > left any stone unturned to show his anger on ARR ! He said "I will perform on > Oscars stage oneday" ( Just because he sung an song in an Steven spielberg > film > ) ...and said so many "Mad" things on couple of interviews !! > > and now he is claiming that he dont at all crave this things !! And like all > other "Celeb" invited on this show he went on praising himself ( I watched > almost every episode ) by saying that even Rahman was shocked that he isnt at > all interested in Oscars !! But at the time of oscars he said ..ARR didnt > took > him..and later we get to know that he had a visa prob....and now we know he > had > an Show @ Kanpur ( Anyone attended that show from here ?..Anyone from Kanpur > ?? > ) So , he possibly couldnt attend the Oscars ... Weird isnt it ? :-) Let's > get > the fact right !! > > If ARR intentionally didnt took sukwinder and he feel it that way why he aint > saying so ? If asked he can also show us some evidence or something !! What > is > the need of saying two different things in two diff places ? He is just so > mad > about missing the chance of performing at the oscars !! Yes, Mad is the > correct > word here in MY view !! > > :-) > > > On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 3:29 PM, V S Rawat <vsra...@...> wrote: > > If someone is finding everyone mad, one possibility is that everybody > >is not mad and this person should get himself checked up whether he > >himself might be. > > > >It is sickening to the soul to see that we are uttering such biased > >statement undermining everybody. Anyone who speaks good of ARR > >instantly become intelligent, caring, creative, considerate and what > >not, and anyone uttering any word that doesn't go well with ARR's > >repute in our mind, that person instantly become loser, mad, > >opportunist, politician, envious, publicity monger and what not. > > > >This list has seen many ups and lows in 11 years, but this phase seems > >to be the lowest ever when we fans are acting like narcissus not able > >to see and appreciate anyone's view point. I hope better sense will > >prevail soon. > > > >I condemn anyone calling anyone mad. If we can't respect one artist > >and one human, it is quite likely that we don't at all know what > >respect is, and our claims of respecting someone else have to be fake. > > > >-- > >Rawat > > > > > >On 9/9/2010 9:14 AM India Time, _A.R.Rajib_ wrote: > > > >> Thanks a ton for the link bro !!! > >> > >> *For the Jai Ho Song the Option given to the Fans was "The jai ho song > >> was sung by Sukwinder,even though it is popular as a A.R.Rahman's > >> Song....How does Sukwinder react on this matter ? "* > >> * > >> * > >> *The option was ...* > >> * > >> * > >> *A. After getting the Oscar A.R.Rahman dint give equal honor to the singer* > >> *B. The singer got enough honor as he deserves* > >> *C.There is grudge ,but he dont wanna say anything in public* > >> > >> I just hope i dont have to translate the hindi by Sukwinder ! The guy is > >> mad !! Dont know from where he got the 2nd time ..jai ho wasnt performed > >> on Grammys :s He needs to get his facts correct !! > >> > >> I dont know why this particular show only invited same kind of people > >> ...Kumar shanu , Bappi Lahiri , Pritam , Sukwinder , Abhijeet , Manna > >> dey ..U know what i mean !! All these people's character are kind of > >> similar :s > >> > >> people Watch the video ..hear it from the person's mouth itself !! > >> > >> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Arijit Debnath <arijit...@... > > > >> <mailto:arijit...@...>> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> Rajib, > >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XfG2dulp8w&feature=related > >> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XfG2dulp8w&feature=related> > >> Arijit > >> > >> On 7 September 2010 10:19, A.R.Rajib <a.r.ra...@... > > > >> <mailto:a.r.ra...@...>> wrote: > >> > >> Oh...i missed that Episode :-( Is there any re-telecast of this > >> ? Can record and upload the same :-) Watched Bappi lahiri,Kumar > >> shanu,Manna dey,Pritam and other episodes just to listen if they > >> comment anything about ARR !! > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Arijit Debnath > > > >> <arijit...@... <mailto:arijit...@...>> wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >> because he is not aware how to apply for visa in proper time > >> and get it... further more he is bad mouthing ARRahman. > >> In a Bengali show "Ke Hobe Biggest Fan?" (who will be the > >> biggest fan?).. he conveyed something like below: > >> *************He doesn't have any regrets for not being at > >> oscars...but his only regret is that at Oscars in background > >> his voice was playing but two ladies were doing lip > >> syncing..... that's a shame.....************* > >> See how baseless allegation he put against Rahman. > >> Arijit > >> > >> > >> On 4 September 2010 13:43, Thulasi Ram <karoke...@... > > > >> <mailto:karoke...@...>> wrote: > >> > >> can anyone please summarize why sukhwinder was not part > >> of oscar and grammies, when gulzar, tanvi and vijay > >> prakash were part of it? > >> > >> > >> thanks. > >> > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > > >Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? > ><b> > >Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. > >Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. > > > >Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com > >Admin: ad...@... > >To Subscribe: [email protected] > >To Unsubscribe: arrahmanfans-unsubscr...@...! 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