I think I am now on the verge of unsubscribing to this group. There is only that much negativity my system can take. The CWG theme song has just opened Pandora's box with mail after mail and article after article full of just childish discussions such as the one below. I love AR's music and now beginning to think that sharing the love for his music here may no longer be the fun experience it used to be. I am probably better off just listening and appreciating his music all by myself. If that's childish, so be it.
And Raj , yes ARR is a selfish stage hogging arrogant artist who only looks out for himself and only himself. ARR wasn't the first music director in Indian history (EVER) to credit all the musicians involved in a soundtrack in the form of a comprehensive credits list at the back of a CD. Even a person who hums in a song does not get his/her due credit by ARR. Instrumental artists are given a cold shoulder- no mention at all. And sound engineers. Who are they? If not for AR, the world of Indian music would be so advanced and artists would have got their due credit and respect without being ignored. It looks to me that the majority opinion ( from all the e-mails and articles in the Indian media that have come through after the CWG theme song), is that the Indian music industry would have been a far better place if not for Rahman. And that in fact the commonwealth games was not a sporting event but a musical song contest. I am not Indian and for the first time I feel a sense of pride in that. : Chris Raj <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, 9 September, 2010 13:29:50 Subject: Re: [arr] Sukhwinder problem? Guys, can anyone pls clarify the following points clearly. 1. why suki was not part of oscar if any visa issue then why he was subsequently ignored by ARR in all stage performance(jaiho song) post oscar... 2. post oscar only ARR sings JAIHO without suki and with only tanvi sha and other lady performars he could have invited suki also ????/ 3. why sucki didnt get Grammy while others like vijay prakash and Tanvisha was part of Grammy , suki is contribution to JAIHO is huge compared to Viajay prakas and Tanvi sha ?.. is there any intention on this issue? why he was not part of Grammy he didnt get any call from grammy .??? 4. why ARR didnt mention suki name in the OSCAR speech while he was mentioning all like MIA,blazee etc etc.... 5. why suki is not part of JAIHO world tour as currently going on.. where in the song JAIHO would be perfomed at every concert does ARR wants to highlight only himself in the song????? show that he can be more popular as a pop singer in west?????? i belive ARR worked with suki in Ravan after this issue then what is stopping ARR to bring suki on stage for singing JAIHOOOO........in any stage am getting confused with these questions in my mind ... ARR is very humble and down to earth person and why he did allow this kind of issues happening ...this is not the question of integrity and this is the question of the getting recognanised at the stage like OSCAR ...this kind of oppertunity suki wont get again am sure that is why he is crying a lot and making this kind of statements especially when ARR failes to impress the people through CWG anthem.... Gops or some one kindly clarify ... I LOVE ARR for his work and as a very good human being as a role model to many .. this issue is raising lot of questions in my mind.... pls clarify Regds Raj ________________________________ From: A.R.Rajib <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, September 9, 2010 4:31:42 PM Subject: Re: [arr] Sukhwinder problem? Ha Ha ha !! Nice one :P I Never said anyone else mad here except Sukwinder :P I dont know the reason behind the statement u gave in this mail :P i just can laugh :P Anyway ...let's get to the main point..At the time of the Oscars Sukwinder didnt left any stone unturned to show his anger on ARR ! He said "I will perform on Oscars stage oneday" ( Just because he sung an song in an Steven spielberg film ) ...and said so many "Mad" things on couple of interviews !! and now he is claiming that he dont at all crave this things !! And like all other "Celeb" invited on this show he went on praising himself ( I watched almost every episode ) by saying that even Rahman was shocked that he isnt at all interested in Oscars !! But at the time of oscars he said ..ARR didnt took him..and later we get to know that he had a visa prob....and now we know he had an Show @ Kanpur ( Anyone attended that show from here ?..Anyone from Kanpur ?? ) So , he possibly couldnt attend the Oscars ... Weird isnt it ? :-) Let's get the fact right !! If ARR intentionally didnt took sukwinder and he feel it that way why he aint saying so ? If asked he can also show us some evidence or something !! What is the need of saying two different things in two diff places ? He is just so mad about missing the chance of performing at the oscars !! Yes, Mad is the correct word here in MY view !! :-) On Thu, Sep 9, 2010 at 3:29 PM, V S Rawat <[email protected]> wrote: If someone is finding everyone mad, one possibility is that everybody >is not mad and this person should get himself checked up whether he >himself might be. > >It is sickening to the soul to see that we are uttering such biased >statement undermining everybody. Anyone who speaks good of ARR >instantly become intelligent, caring, creative, considerate and what >not, and anyone uttering any word that doesn't go well with ARR's >repute in our mind, that person instantly become loser, mad, >opportunist, politician, envious, publicity monger and what not. > >This list has seen many ups and lows in 11 years, but this phase seems >to be the lowest ever when we fans are acting like narcissus not able >to see and appreciate anyone's view point. I hope better sense will >prevail soon. > >I condemn anyone calling anyone mad. If we can't respect one artist >and one human, it is quite likely that we don't at all know what >respect is, and our claims of respecting someone else have to be fake. > >-- >Rawat > > >On 9/9/2010 9:14 AM India Time, _A.R.Rajib_ wrote: > >> Thanks a ton for the link bro !!! >> >> *For the Jai Ho Song the Option given to the Fans was "The jai ho song >> was sung by Sukwinder,even though it is popular as a A.R.Rahman's >> Song....How does Sukwinder react on this matter ? "* >> * >> * >> *The option was ...* >> * >> * >> *A. After getting the Oscar A.R.Rahman dint give equal honor to the singer* >> *B. The singer got enough honor as he deserves* >> *C.There is grudge ,but he dont wanna say anything in public* >> >> I just hope i dont have to translate the hindi by Sukwinder ! The guy is >> mad !! Dont know from where he got the 2nd time ..jai ho wasnt performed >> on Grammys :s He needs to get his facts correct !! >> >> I dont know why this particular show only invited same kind of people >> ...Kumar shanu , Bappi Lahiri , Pritam , Sukwinder , Abhijeet , Manna >> dey ..U know what i mean !! All these people's character are kind of >> similar :s >> >> people Watch the video ..hear it from the person's mouth itself !! >> >> On Tue, Sep 7, 2010 at 2:50 PM, Arijit Debnath <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> >> >> Rajib, >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XfG2dulp8w&feature=related >> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7XfG2dulp8w&feature=related> >> Arijit >> >> On 7 September 2010 10:19, A.R.Rajib <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> Oh...i missed that Episode :-( Is there any re-telecast of this >> ? Can record and upload the same :-) Watched Bappi lahiri,Kumar >> shanu,Manna dey,Pritam and other episodes just to listen if they >> comment anything about ARR !! >> >> >> On Mon, Sep 6, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Arijit Debnath > >> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> >> >> because he is not aware how to apply for visa in proper time >> and get it... further more he is bad mouthing ARRahman. >> In a Bengali show "Ke Hobe Biggest Fan?" (who will be the >> biggest fan?).. he conveyed something like below: >> *************He doesn't have any regrets for not being at >> oscars...but his only regret is that at Oscars in background >> his voice was playing but two ladies were doing lip >> syncing..... that's a shame.....************* >> See how baseless allegation he put against Rahman. >> Arijit >> >> >> On 4 September 2010 13:43, Thulasi Ram <[email protected] > >> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: >> >> can anyone please summarize why sukhwinder was not part >> of oscar and grammies, when gulzar, tanvi and vijay >> prakash were part of it? >> >> >> thanks. >> > > > >------------------------------------ > > >Are you searching for a reason, to be kind? ><b> >Explore, Experience, Enjoy A.R.Rahman - The Man, The Music, The Magic. >Only at arrahmanfans.com - The definitive A.R.Rahman e-community. > >Homepage: http://www.arrahmanfans.com >Admin: [email protected] >To Subscribe: [email protected] >To Unsubscribe: [email protected]! 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