You sir... you said it :) On Mon, May 31, 2010 at 1:12 PM, Pravinder <[email protected]>wrote:
> > > My only comment in this whole matter is, > "Its the small imperfections that make an album perfact". > > Cheer up. > > --- In [email protected] <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com>, > Gayathri Chandrakasan <gayathri_c...@...> wrote: > > > > Gopal ji, I'm not trying to give much importance to the debate of new vs > seasoned singers myself. In any event, my previous post was specifically > drawn to answer Mr. Rawat's contention that younger female singers are at > par with the veteran singers. > > > > Without further diverting from the topic, I would like to reiterate that > Karthik has done a marvelous job both in Behne de and Usure Pogadhe and he > deserves all the accolades and credits for a job well done here. > > > > Correct me if I'm wrong but your argument was that Sonu and Sukhwinder > are more deserving singers as compared to Karthik and you believe that they > would done a better job in Behne De. I, for one find it futile to bring Sonu > or Sukhwinder into this picture. Don't get me wrong for I've nothing against > these two great singers but if ARR decided to have Karthik's voice in Behne > De then I'm very sure he has very good reasons for the well-made decision. > > > > For one, there is something very unique about Karthik's voice which makes > him stand far apart from his contemporaries. He has a deep voice which he > uses with great effectiveness. They touch you soul when sung in the low > notes and they give you goose bumps when sung in the high notes. And these > qualities are very much apparent and (judging from the lyrics) essential to > Behne De and Usure Pogathe. > > > > Quote - "My only submission was that perhaps ARR is being overloaded with > too > > many projects (national and international, collabs etc.) and hence the > > effort to give a song to the most deserving singer (one who is > > conversant with the genre and language) - is somewhere getting diluted." > > Perhaps you're giving ARR less credit than he deserves. I don't believe > ARR would compromise on the quality of any of his projects in favour for > another. Then again, I don't understand how ARR being overloaded with work > has anything to do with the selection of singers. In any event, Sonu and > Sukhwinder did sing a song each for Raavan. (It was most unfortunate that > Sonu's song got axed but that's not the issue here.) My contention is that > if ARR had wanted Sonu or Sukhwinder or any other singers to sing Behne De, > then he would most certainly have got them to do so. But clearly he wanted > to credit Karthik with this number and it's my humble opinion that ARR has > made an apt choice here. > > > > --- On Thu, 5/27/10, Gopal Anandan <agop...@...> wrote: > > > > From: Gopal Anandan <agop...@...> > > > Subject: Re: [arr] I feel Behne de singing didn't keep up with its music > > To: [email protected] <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com> > > Date: Thursday, May 27, 2010, 5:06 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Gayathri ji - the debate is not so much about comparing new vs. seasoned > singers. We are trying to understand why one version sounds better than the > other. One of the reason is also the choice of singers for that genre or > type of song and for that particular language. > > > > My only submission was that perhaps ARR is being overloaded with too many > projects (national and international, collabs etc.) and hence the effort to > give a song to the most deserving singer (one who is conversant with the > genre and language) - is somewhere getting diluted. > > > > ciao / Gopal > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 27/5/10, Gayathri Chandrakasan <gayathri_ck17@ yahoo.com> > wrote: > > > > From: Gayathri Chandrakasan <gayathri_ck17@ yahoo.com> > > Subject: Re: [arr] I > > feel Behne de singing didn't keep up with its music > > To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com > > Date: Thursday, 27 May, 2010, 3:00 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote "But, Gayatri, if you compare among females, you wouldn't find > younger > > > > lot of them lacking in any manner from the veterans. ARR has introduced > so many female singers,you can name any female singer and find that her > first ARR song is great and doesn't give any slightest indications that it > could be her first song." > > > > > > > > To begin with, the number of female singers introduced by ARR is > relatively smaller as compared to the male singers. Nevertheless to answer > you question, yes, I do feel that singers like Harini, Chinmayee, Reena > Bharadwaj etc would take years before they can be compared with the likes of > Lata Mangeshkar, Asha, S.Janaki, Chitra, Kavitha Krishnamurthy or > Swarnalatha. I'm not saying they're bad, but they still have not captured > the versatility nor do they possess the talent that is evident in the latter > group of singers. I'm not going to bring Shreya Ghosal or Sadhana Sargam > into this argument as they were clearly introduced by other MDs and it took > them some time (esp in the case of Sadhana) before they got the oppurtunity > to sing under ARR..nevertheless among the list of new singers we have today, > I don't think many of them could be called trend-setters or amazing as was > the case with the veterans. > > > > On further note, how many of the younger lot of > > singers have sustained in the industry til date? Singers like Anupama and > Vasundhra Das did woo the whole world through their debut numbers but > frankly speaking, where are they now? Caroline was a one-time wonder, and > she was gone before we could determine is she's really Chinese as claimed. > Nithyashree is clearly very comfortable with her carnatic numbers while > Grammy award winner Thanvi Shah and Sunitha Sarathy have hardly made any > impact outside ARR's camp. Need I say more? > > > > Again, I reiterate, the new set of singers are definitely promising, > nevertheless, it's futile to compare them with the veteran singers. Clearly, > talents are there in everyone but it definitely would take years of hard > work and determination to reach the standards set by the latter. > > > > > > > > --- On Wed, 5/26/10, V S Rawat <vsra...@gmail. com> wrote: > > > > From: V S Rawat > > <vsra...@gmail. com> > > Subject: Re: [arr] I feel Behne de singing didn't keep up with its music > > To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com > > Date: Wednesday, May 26, 2010, 8:55 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 5/27/2010 7:40 AM India Time, _Gayathri Chandrakasan_ wrote: > > > > > > > > > I beg to differ here. I really felt Karthik has done a wonderful job in > > > > > Behne De. The song clearly speaks of the protagonist' s passion and > > > > > longing...and Karthik managed to voice out these feelings with such > > > > > great intensity through his powerful singing. And the way his voice > > > > > travels from the low notes to the higher notes with ease...well, I > don't > > > > > know about you guys, but I can't help feeling mesmerised by his > > > > > versatility here. > > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, I agree that many of the young singers today are no > > > > > match to SPB, Hariharan, Udit or Sonu, but then again, how is it fair > to > > > > > compare the new breed of singers with those of 20-40 years experience > in > > > > > the field? > > > > > > > > But, Gayatri, if you compare among females, you wouldn't find younger > > > > lot of them lacking in any manner from the veterans. > > > > > > > > ARR has introduced so many female singers,you can name any female > > > > singer and find that her first ARR song is great and doesn't give any > > > > slightest indications that it could be her first song. > > > > > > > > Then, why are male singers not comparable to veteran male singers. > > > > > > > > > With all due respect, Dr. SPB started of his career through a > > > > > rather adequate singing himself. It's only because of his > determination, > > > > > passion, hardwork and years of training that finally saw him coming up > > > > > with such spectacular vocals. And Hariharan was already a trained > ghazal > > > > > singer and has cut many ghazal albums before he entered the film world. > > > > > > > > > On the other hand, singers like Benny, Naresh and Javed had nothing > > > > > behind their name when they were introduced. Thus, it's still too early > > > > > to judge their ability as singers when they are still in the learning > > > > > stage. I'm very sure, as time goes by, these singers would be able to > > > > > express their true talents to the world. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Rawat > > > > > -- ----------------------------------- http://roshanravi.com http://ramblingsoul.com http://cssheaven.org

