*Cool man.. take it as my personal opinion.* *If only you had said it was your opinion. Reread your previous mail. You wanted us to accept.*
*the difference btwn us is am not a die hard fan like you.. accepts only if the work is gud only.. * *Yes i am a die hard fan. Not a fanatic. Check out the archives. You will find atleast a dozen mails of mine which find similarities/inspirations of ARR with other artistes. And again I reiterate. Go ahead and accept things that you find good. Please dont imbibe it on others.* *read the thread starter's points again..its same what i have to say .. hope u get me..* *You got to read my mail to you again. I never had any issues with you not liking techno songs. Its only when you feel that you are right, and others fans are blindly praising ARR, that i have a problem.Please understand that some may still like it.Like some of us. Doesnt mean anyone is right here.* *You got to understand here. Not only has ARR changed, we have too. * On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 6:34 PM, jemsheed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Cool man.. take it as my personal opinion. > the difference btwn us is am not a die hard fan like you.. accepts only if > the work is gud only.. > > nd frm ur list except khwaja none of them are mass hits..khwaja also > belongs to a class.. can u gues why.. > take any lagaan songs or even any songs frm boyz (sure not frm 2000s) they > were mass hits also..right?..now dont say that we are masses.. > the reason is simple as gops said each artist has their own peak time :) > > basically..i dont like these computer generated(synthetic) sounds which arr > nowa days inputs more..what u say... > take song 'dost' what a nice song..but the backing > kelaamal, marudani,...etc > read the thread starter's points again..its same what i have to say .. > hope u get me.. > > > --- On *Sat, 8/11/08, Gomzy™ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote: > > From: Gomzy™ <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [arr] Do U find those creative percussions missing nowadays in > Sir's arrangement?- i agree > To: [email protected] > Date: Saturday, 8 November, 2008, 4:49 PM > > *one of the boring thing in a fans group is supporting the artist even if > he degrades in his quality output and the fans argue it as new things or new > style or innovations. .* > > *You know whats even more boring? The age old problem of a human being. > Its called " What I feel is Right! " > Its you who feel this and not necessarily that everyone else should feel, > right? > Now maybe you are right, but again you maybe wrong. > But since you feel so, everyone else is stupid eh? * > > *this yr as of now we have JA,SK,JTYJ,ADA, YVR.. > Songs are nice..can somebody tell me(plz honestly) an' in and out > outstanding' song from these albums..yes am comparing the this yrs songs > with his older day's quality outputs..* > > *1) Khwaja Mere Khwaja > 2) Hawa Sun hawa > 3) Zindagi > 4) Mujhe Milo > 5) Man Mohana > > I have tried been horribly honest here and i could come up with atleast the > above songs as masterpieces. > But again, its what i feel and i maybe wrong. But I maybe right too. > * > *one of the main reason is said by this thread starter. > accept it and letus hope later this may get improved.. > as of now watching the 1 min clip of gajini i feel this also belongs to the > same.*. > > * > Now I have no qualms in you accepting. But why in God's name should we ? > Is it cuz you think you are right? Now who else says you are right? * > > *i dont know the technical terms much ...but i can hear that and i can > feel that..* > > *Good. Thank God you didnt force me to feel it too .....Atleast i get to > do that on my own* > > *Put in your views and I shall put mine. Lets not try proving who is right > and who is wrong. * > > On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 10:17 AM, jemsheed <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com<[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > >> one of the boring thing in a fans group is supporting the artist even >> if he degrades in his quality output and the fans argue it as new things or >> new style or innovations. . >> ok.. i have a qn here.. >> this yr as of now we have JA,SK,JTYJ,ADA, YVR.. >> Songs are nice..can somebody tell me(plz honestly) an' in and out >> outstanding' song from these albums..yes am comparing the this yrs songs >> with his older day's quality outputs.. >> >> one of the main reason is said by this thread starter. >> accept it and letus hope later this may get improved.. >> as of now watching the 1 min clip of gajini i feel this also belongs to >> the same.. >> the synethetic.. .i dont know the technical terms much ...but i can hear >> that and i can feel that.. >> >> --- On *Sat, 8/11/08, V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com <[EMAIL >> PROTECTED]>>*wrote: >> >> From: V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> >> Subject: Re: [arr] Do U find those creative percussions missing nowadays >> in Sir's arrangement? >> To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com <[email protected]> >> Date: Saturday, 8 November, 2008, 12:47 AM >> >> Yes, Jafar. Agree with you. That is the way it is. ARR is trying >> different things now, and that is what fans expect him to do. No point >> giving old things again. >> >> There could be some sacrifices brought by this but that can't be helped. >> >> 1. One is that I feel that ARR's signature thinggy is becoming less and >> less obvious in his songs, in some songs it needs to be searched with a >> magnifying glass, it needs to be discussed and argued whether it is >> there or not. >> >> 2. But the good aspect is that the growing period of ARR's music has >> almost disappeared or has become very short. >> >> -- >> V >> >> On 11/7/2008 10:32 PM India Time, _Jafar K_ wrote: >> >> > I totally disagree. ARR has lost nothing. He is trying different kind of >> music everytime and I am enjoying it. >> > >> > Jafar >> > >> > --- On Fri, 7/11/08, dian hayati <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > com<diansrk%40yahoo.com>> >> wrote: >> > >> >> From: dian hayati <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com <diansrk%40yahoo.com>> >> >> >> I absolutely agree with you guys. One thing also bothers me. >> >> I love Srinivas' voice, very much unique, but singing >> >> Zindagi...without that classical music...I feel something >> >> missing, not really satisfied with the arrangement, and also >> >> with the manmohini... hmm...well, is it just because I'm >> >> not too smart to analyze these kind of things, or...I >> >> don't know, but please correct me guys if I say >> >> something wrong here... >> >> >> >> >> >> AR Rahman has changed my life >> >> His great music is another name of Love... >> >> >> >> Dian Hayati Syamsuir >> >> >> >> --- On Fri, 11/7/08, Chord <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com <purevibz%40yahoo.com> >> > >> >> wrote: >> >> >> >> From: Chord <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com <purevibz%40yahoo.com>> >> >> Subject: Re: [arr] Do U find those creative percussions >> >> missing nowadays in Sir's arrangement? >> >> To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com <arrahmanfans%40yahoogroups.com> >> >> Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 10:40 AM >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Agreed. Found Yuvraaj's rhythm tracks to be the weakest >> >> link in the >> >> album. He is also using synth tabla sounds, which is fine >> >> by me, but >> >> again underscores the diminished use of ethnic percussion >> >> in recent >> >> works, with exceptions like Khwaja and Azeem from JA. >> >> >> >> It could be a deliberate attempt by ARR to move away from >> >> rhythm based >> >> songs to more melody oriented numbers, which I feel has >> >> been the >> >> strongest trend by ARR recently. His songs this year have >> >> been >> >> extremely melodious, the most meloodious music out of >> >> anyone in India, >> >> and for that, I am extremely happy. His melodies and mid >> >> range >> >> arrangements are just mindblowing, even at the sacrifice of >> >> his rhythm >> >> tracks, which is just relative to his own previous work. >> >> >> >> --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Syed Quadri >> >> <saregamaka@ ...> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> I fully agree on the poster's comments. May be it >> >> is due to >> >> relocation of his lieutenants , such as Siva mani, Naveen >> >> and host of >> >> other musicians already made Mumbai as their homes. Even >> >> junior sound >> >> engineers like Aditya Modi relocated to Mumbai. Other >> >> factors could >> >> be immense work load , pressure of deadlines ( Although >> >> AR never turn >> >> in the work on time.. .watch the recent interview hosted >> >> by NDTV and >> >> the trio was playing blame game in front of millions >> >> of audience , >> >> that Ghai was expecting a western classical in two months >> >> and AR was >> >> due to submit the project for shoot last July ,Gulzar >> >> and Ghai belong >> >> to two different schools of thought, etc ,etc ). >> >>> it is a fact that , one person can not do things >> >> single handed. Gone >> >> are the days when MDs like Naushad, Madan mohan , >> >> Ilyaraja RDB used >> >> to oversee all the departments. This is the era where >> >> Md's like SEL, >> >> VS share their work load as a team and live in >> >> tinsel town, stay in >> >> touch with the best of people in the industry for PR work. >> >> whereby >> >> these smart marketing manipulators create negative >> >> publicity for AR >> >> and happily belonging to the camps controlling the >> >> industry. >> >>> >> >>> --- On Thu, 11/6/08, subhadip_jis <subhadip_jis@ >> >> ...> wrote: >> >>> From: subhadip_jis <subhadip_jis@ ...> >> >>> Subject: [arr] Do U find those creative percussions >> >> missing nowadays >> >> in Sir's arrangement? >> >>> To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com >> >>> Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 1:11 PM >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> >>> Guys, I want to share my views on this topic. I was >> >> listening to >> >>> Rahman Sir's classic compositions from >> >> Iruvar-Alaypayithey -Bombay, >> >>> also "Thiruda Thiruda" numbers & >> >> "FIRE" BGMs. >> >>> I think the usual charm of tight percussion units in >> >> ARR's songs is no >> >>> longer existing nowadays. The kind of minute details >> >> we used to get in >> >>> every beat of it, may it be "humma humma" or >> >> "Thee Thee" or a semi- >> >>> classical number like "Radha kaise na >> >> jale..." is somewhere missing >> >>> nowadays. Even this creative percussion were heard in >> >> RDB, (Remember >> >>> the bike chasing or killing of minister scene !!!!), >> >> also a bit of it >> >>> in Jodha Akbar (although he relied upon synthesized >> >> beats in "Jashn >> >>> Bahara"). >> >>> Does it mean Rahman Sir doesn't involve himself >> >> much in every section >> >>> of a song, rather leave it to young bloods like >> >> Krishna Chetan? At >> >>> least I personally felt lack of innovative percussion >> >> (using unusual >> >>> beats & instruments) in last couple of films like >> >> "Jaane >> >>> Tu..", "Sakkarakatti" , "ADA" >> >> & even in "Yuvraj". In "Yuvraj" also >> >> he >> >>> uses a lot of techno stuffs as backing beats, which >> >> just supports the >> >>> song by keeping the rhythm but doesn't increase >> >> it's beauty. Well >> >>> composed numbers like "Tu hi meri dost" or >> >> "Manmohini" or "Dil ka >> >>> rishta" has a very repeatative & fully >> >> synthesized beat which cud have >> >>> been taken care of I think, a full orchestral sound is >> >> going side by >> >>> side (just think of "Thiruda Thiruda") >> >>> >> >>> Whats ur opinion ???????? >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. 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