Hi Jafar Bro,
I had a time, i used to skip my lunch for saving money to Buy ARR's Audio 
Cassettes.I think you can understand now what kind of a fan i am..

--- On Sat, 8/11/08, Jafar K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
From: Jafar K <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [arr] Do U find those creative percussions missing nowadays in 
Sir's arrangement?- i agree
To: [email protected]
Date: Saturday, 8 November, 2008, 10:37 PM










    
            Hey Jamsheed,

I am unhappy to read your comments. Because first time I hearing that ARR is 
losing his quality in music. I am so sad to know that you did not find any 
outstanding number in ARR's 2008 releases. 

Bro... I think you have some problem. Please don't comment like this in this 
group, this is AR Rahman's "Fans" group and we are fans not enemies. We cannot 
suffer these kind of comments. Beware.. we will react. he he..(just kidding)

Here is my comment on his 2008 releases. You said you couldn't see any 
'outstanding' numbers. Maaan.. for me JA itself a outstanding one. Kwaja mere 
kwaja, Jashn-e-bahara, In lamhon ki daaman mein... what else you want. I am 
still listening to these songs everyday.



Ok. Sakkarakkatti. . I rate Marudha nee is outstanding. 

JTYJN - Kabhi kabhi, Jane tu mera kya hai.. I think u din't listen to these 
songs properly.

Ada - Milo wahan wahan is outstanding. . Hawa sun hawa, Meharbaan.

Yuvraaj - Tu mera dost hai, Tu muskura, zindagi (I consider tu muskura is 
outstanding)

Waiting for more outstanding numbers from Ghajini. 



If u don't like these songs.. don't worry listen to his old outstanding numbers 
like roja, kadhalan, gentleman, dilse, taal, jeans, bombay, boys, lagaan, rang 
de basanti, thiruda thiruda, rangeela, taj mahal, etc etc.



Do you expect something like this wait for Rockstar. ARR rules and rocks!!! 
always..... Let's pray for his long live.  



Jafar 



--- On Sat, 8/11/08, Gomzy™ <gomtesh.upadhye@ gmail.com> wrote:



> From: Gomzy™ <gomtesh.upadhye@ gmail.com>

> Subject: Re: [arr] Do U find those creative percussions missing nowadays in 
> Sir's arrangement? - i agree

> To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com

> Date: Saturday, 8 November, 2008, 4:49 PM

> *one of the boring thing in a fans group is supporting the

> artist even if he

> degrades in his quality output and the fans argue it as new

> things or new

> style or innovations. .*

> 

> *You know whats even more boring? The age old problem of a

> human being. Its

> called " What I feel is Right! "

> Its you who feel this and not necessarily that everyone

> else should feel,

> right?

> Now maybe you are right, but again you maybe wrong.

> But since you feel so, everyone else is stupid eh? *

> 

> *this yr as of now we have JA,SK,JTYJ,ADA, YVR..

> Songs are nice..can somebody tell me(plz honestly) an'

> in and out

> outstanding' song from these albums..yes am comparing

> the this yrs songs

> with his older day's quality outputs..*

> 

> *1) Khwaja Mere Khwaja

> 2) Hawa Sun hawa

> 3) Zindagi

> 4) Mujhe Milo

> 5) Man Mohana

> 

> I have tried been horribly honest here and i could come up

> with atleast the

> above songs as masterpieces.

> But again, its what i feel and i maybe wrong. But I maybe

> right too.

> *

> *one of the main reason is said by this thread starter.

> accept it and letus hope later this may get improved..

> as of now watching the 1 min clip of gajini i feel this

> also belongs to the

> same.*.

> 

> *

> Now I have no qualms in you accepting. But why in God's

> name should we ?

> Is it cuz you think you are right? Now who else says you

> are right? *

> 

> *i dont know the technical terms much ...but i can hear

> that and i can feel

> that..*

> 

> *Good. Thank God you didnt force me to feel it too

> .....Atleast i get to do

> that on my own*

> 

> *Put in your views and I shall put mine. Lets not try

> proving who is right

> and who is wrong. *

> 

> On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 10:17 AM, jemsheed

> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com> wrote:

> 

> >   one of the boring thing in a fans group is

> supporting the artist even if

> > he degrades in his quality output and the fans argue

> it as new things or new

> > style or innovations. .

> > ok.. i have a qn here..

> > this yr as of now we have JA,SK,JTYJ,ADA, YVR..

> > Songs are nice..can somebody tell me(plz honestly)

> an' in and out

> > outstanding' song from these albums..yes am

> comparing the this yrs songs

> > with his older day's quality outputs..

> >

> > one of the main reason is said by this thread starter.

> > accept it and letus hope later this may get improved..

> > as of now watching the 1 min clip of gajini i feel

> this also belongs to the

> > same..

> > the synethetic.. .i dont know the technical terms much

> ...but i can hear

> > that and i can feel that..

> >

> > --- On *Sat, 8/11/08, V S Rawat

> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>* wrote:

> >

> > From: V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com>

> > Subject: Re: [arr] Do U find those creative

> percussions missing nowadays in

> > Sir's arrangement?

> > To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com

> > Date: Saturday, 8 November, 2008, 12:47 AM

> >

> >  Yes, Jafar. Agree with you. That is the way it is.

> ARR is trying

> > different things now, and that is what fans expect him

> to do. No point

> > giving old things again.

> >

> > There could be some sacrifices brought by this but

> that can't be helped.

> >

> > 1. One is that I feel that ARR's signature thinggy

> is becoming less and

> > less obvious in his songs, in some songs it needs to

> be searched with a

> > magnifying glass, it needs to be discussed and argued

> whether it is

> > there or not.

> >

> > 2. But the good aspect is that the growing period of

> ARR's music has

> > almost disappeared or has become very short.

> >

> > --

> > V

> >

> > On 11/7/2008 10:32 PM India Time, _Jafar K_ wrote:

> >

> > > I totally disagree. ARR has lost nothing. He is

> trying different kind of

> > music everytime and I am enjoying it.

> > >

> > > Jafar

> > >

> > > --- On Fri, 7/11/08, dian hayati

> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com<diansrk% 40yahoo.com> >

> > wrote:

> > >

> > >> From: dian hayati <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com

> <diansrk%40yahoo. com>>

> >

> > >> I absolutely agree with you guys. One thing

> also bothers me.

> > >> I love Srinivas' voice, very much unique,

> but singing

> > >> Zindagi...without that classical music...I

> feel something

> > >> missing, not really satisfied with the

> arrangement, and also

> > >> with the manmohini... hmm...well, is it just

> because I'm

> > >> not too smart to analyze these kind of

> things, or...I

> > >> don't know, but please correct me guys if

> I say

> > >> something wrong here...

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> AR Rahman has changed my life

> > >> His great music is another name of Love...

> > >>

> > >> Dian Hayati Syamsuir

> > >>

> > >> --- On Fri, 11/7/08, Chord

> <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com <purevibz%40yahoo. com>>

> > >> wrote:

> > >>

> > >> From: Chord <[EMAIL PROTECTED] com

> <purevibz%40yahoo. com>>

> > >> Subject: Re: [arr] Do U find those creative

> percussions

> > >> missing nowadays in Sir's arrangement?

> > >> To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com

> <arrahmanfans% 40yahoogroups. com>

> > >> Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 10:40 AM

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >>

> > >> Agreed. Found Yuvraaj's rhythm tracks to

> be the weakest

> > >> link in the

> > >> album. He is also using synth tabla sounds,

> which is fine

> > >> by me, but

> > >> again underscores the diminished use of

> ethnic percussion

> > >> in recent

> > >> works, with exceptions like Khwaja and Azeem

> from JA.

> > >>

> > >> It could be a deliberate attempt by ARR to

> move away from

> > >> rhythm based

> > >> songs to more melody oriented numbers, which

> I feel has

> > >> been the

> > >> strongest trend by ARR recently. His songs

> this year have

> > >> been

> > >> extremely melodious, the most meloodious

> music out of

> > >> anyone in India,

> > >> and for that, I am extremely happy. His

> melodies and mid

> > >> range

> > >> arrangements are just mindblowing, even at

> the sacrifice of

> > >> his rhythm

> > >> tracks, which is just relative to his own

> previous work.

> > >>

> > >> --- In arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com, Syed

> Quadri

> > >> <saregamaka@ ...> wrote:

> > >>>

> > >>> I fully agree on the poster's

> comments. May be it

> > >> is due to

> > >> relocation of his lieutenants , such as Siva

> mani, Naveen

> > >> and host of

> > >> other musicians already made Mumbai as their

> homes. Even

> > >> junior sound

> > >> engineers like Aditya Modi relocated to

> Mumbai. Other

> > >> factors could

> > >> be immense work load , pressure of deadlines

> ( Although

> > >> AR never turn

> > >> in the work on time.. .watch the recent

> interview hosted

> > >> by NDTV and

> > >> the trio was playing blame game in front of

> millions

> > >> of audience ,

> > >> that Ghai was expecting a western classical

> in two months

> > >> and AR was

> > >> due to submit the project for shoot last July

> ,Gulzar

> > >> and Ghai belong

> > >> to two different schools of thought, etc ,etc

> ).

> > >>> it is a fact that , one person can not do

> things

> > >> single handed. Gone

> > >> are the days when MDs like Naushad, Madan

> mohan ,

> > >> Ilyaraja RDB used

> > >> to oversee all the departments. This is the

> era where

> > >> Md's like SEL,

> > >> VS share their work load as a team and live

> in

> > >> tinsel town, stay in

> > >> touch with the best of people in the industry

> for PR work.

> > >> whereby

> > >> these smart marketing manipulators create

> negative

> > >> publicity for AR

> > >> and happily belonging to the camps

> controlling the

> > >> industry.

> > >>>

> > >>> --- On Thu, 11/6/08, subhadip_jis

> <subhadip_jis@

> > >> ...> wrote:

> > >>> From: subhadip_jis <subhadip_jis@

> ...>

> > >>> Subject: [arr] Do U find those creative

> percussions

> > >> missing nowadays

> > >> in Sir's arrangement?

> > >>> To: arrahmanfans@ yahoogroups. com

> > >>> Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 1:11 PM

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>>

> > >>> Guys, I want to share my views on this

> topic. I was

> > >> listening to

> > >>> Rahman Sir's classic compositions

> from

> > >> Iruvar-Alaypayithey -Bombay,

> > >>> also "Thiruda Thiruda" numbers

> &

> > >> "FIRE" BGMs.

> > >>> I think the usual charm of tight

> percussion units in

> > >> ARR's songs is no

> > >>> longer existing nowadays. The kind of

> minute details

> > >> we used to get in

> > >>> every beat of it, may it be "humma

> humma" or

> > >> "Thee Thee" or a semi-

> > >>> classical number like "Radha kaise

> na

> > >> jale..." is somewhere missing

> > >>> nowadays. Even this creative percussion

> were heard in

> > >> RDB, (Remember

> > >>> the bike chasing or killing of minister

> scene !!!!),

> > >> also a bit of it

> > >>> in Jodha Akbar (although he relied upon

> synthesized

> > >> beats in "Jashn

> > >>> Bahara").

> > >>> Does it mean Rahman Sir doesn't

> involve himself

> > >> much in every section

> > >>> of a song, rather leave it to young

> bloods like

> > >> Krishna Chetan? At

> > >>> least I personally felt lack of

> innovative percussion

> > >> (using unusual

> > >>> beats & instruments) in last couple

> of films like

> > >> "Jaane

> > >>> Tu..", "Sakkarakatti" ,

> "ADA"

> > >> & even in "Yuvraj". In

> "Yuvraj" also

> > >> he

> > >>> uses a lot of techno stuffs as backing

> beats, which

> > >> just supports the

> > >>> song by keeping the rhythm but

> doesn't increase

> > >> it's beauty. Well

> > >>> composed numbers like "Tu hi meri

> dost" or

> > >> "Manmohini" or "Dil ka

> > >>> rishta" has a very repeatative &

> fully

> > >> synthesized beat which cud have

> > >>> been taken care of I think, a full

> orchestral sound is

> > >> going side by

> > >>> side (just think of "Thiruda

> Thiruda")

> > >>>

> > >>> Whats ur opinion ????????

> >

> >

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