On the other hand, as I think about this, although his rhythm tracks have been very simplistic compared to previous examples, I also find them to be crisp and uncluttered. Lots of breathing room in the arrangements rhythm wise which I also find refreshing. A good exmplae of cluttered rhythm is title song of Rang De Basanti, despite how good the song is, sonically it's muddy. It's an adjustment that Rahman has had to make in order to infuse more crispness and clarity in his songs. Of course, trying to find the right balance of crispness and substance is tricky and perhaps he is leaving himself out of the equation a bit more in his latter years compared to the 1990s. Regardless, I still find his songs awe inspiring and extremely melodious and brilliant.
--- In [email protected], "sdavies0" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I agree. The use of cheap mechanical beats instead of the music of > Sivamani or another human percussionist makes what could be excellent > music sound closer to the cheap and tawdry stuff that his rivals > produce. "Tu Meri Dost Hain" could have been an excellent piece but > it isn't. It reminds me of the horrors that people produce when they > add cheap beatbox beats and say they are producing a remix of a > Rahman original. Here Rahman has released what sounds like a cheap > remix, but it is his original piece. I hope he never does that again > and I hope someone can electronically cut out the dreadful beatbox > repetition and let us hear what the original should have sounded like. > If he is turning out half-finished work with cheap beatbox effects > because of what you call the pressure of deadlines and the immense > work load or the absence of assistance, then he should hire more > assistants or take on fewer assignments rather than compromise the > quality of his music. > > Stevan Davies > > > > Agreed. Found Yuvraaj's rhythm tracks to be the weakest link in the > > album. He is also using synth tabla sounds, which is fine by me, > but > > again underscores the diminished use of ethnic percussion in recent > > works, with exceptions like Khwaja and Azeem from JA. > > > > It could be a deliberate attempt by ARR to move away from rhythm > based > > songs to more melody oriented numbers, which I feel has been the > > strongest trend by ARR recently. His songs this year have been > > extremely melodious, the most meloodious music out of anyone in > India, > > and for that, I am extremely happy. His melodies and mid range > > arrangements are just mindblowing, even at the sacrifice of his > rhythm > > tracks, which is just relative to his own previous work. > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Syed Quadri <saregamaka@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I fully agree on the poster's comments. May be it is due to > > relocation of his lieutenants , such as Siva mani, Naveen and host > of > > other musicians already made Mumbai as their homes. Even junior > sound > > engineers like Aditya Modi relocated to Mumbai. Other factors could > > be immense work load , pressure of deadlines ( Although AR > never turn > > in the work on time...watch the recent interview hosted by NDTV and > > the trio was playing blame game in front of millions of audience , > > that Ghai was expecting a western classical in two months and AR was > > due to submit the project for shoot last July ,Gulzar and Ghai > belong > > to two different schools of thought, etc ,etc ). > > > it is a fact that , one person can not do things single handed. > Gone > > are the days when MDs like Naushad, Madan mohan , Ilyaraja RDB used > > to oversee all the departments. This is the era where Md's like > SEL, > > VS share their work load as a team and live in tinsel town, stay > in > > touch with the best of people in the industry for PR work. whereby > > these smart marketing manipulators create negative publicity for AR > > and happily belonging to the camps controlling the industry. > > > > > > --- On Thu, 11/6/08, subhadip_jis <subhadip_jis@> wrote: > > > > > > From: subhadip_jis <subhadip_jis@> > > > Subject: [arr] Do U find those creative percussions missing > nowadays > > in Sir's arrangement? > > > To: [email protected] > > > Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 1:11 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Guys, I want to share my views on this topic. I was listening to > > > Rahman Sir's classic compositions from Iruvar-Alaypayithey - > Bombay, > > > also "Thiruda Thiruda" numbers & "FIRE" BGMs. > > > I think the usual charm of tight percussion units in ARR's songs > is no > > > longer existing nowadays. The kind of minute details we used to > get in > > > every beat of it, may it be "humma humma" or "Thee Thee" or a > semi- > > > classical number like "Radha kaise na jale..." is somewhere > missing > > > nowadays. Even this creative percussion were heard in RDB, > (Remember > > > the bike chasing or killing of minister scene !!!!), also a bit > of it > > > in Jodha Akbar (although he relied upon synthesized beats > in "Jashn > > > Bahara"). > > > Does it mean Rahman Sir doesn't involve himself much in every > section > > > of a song, rather leave it to young bloods like Krishna Chetan? > At > > > least I personally felt lack of innovative percussion (using > unusual > > > beats & instruments) in last couple of films like "Jaane > > > Tu..", "Sakkarakatti" , "ADA" & even in "Yuvraj". In "Yuvraj" > also he > > > uses a lot of techno stuffs as backing beats, which just supports > the > > > song by keeping the rhythm but doesn't increase it's beauty. Well > > > composed numbers like "Tu hi meri dost" or "Manmohini" or "Dil ka > > > rishta" has a very repeatative & fully synthesized beat which cud > have > > > been taken care of I think, a full orchestral sound is going side > by > > > side (just think of "Thiruda Thiruda") > > > > > > Whats ur opinion ???????? > > > > > >
