I agree. The use of cheap mechanical beats instead of the music of 
Sivamani or another human percussionist makes what could be excellent 
music sound closer to the cheap and tawdry stuff that his rivals 
produce. "Tu Meri Dost Hain" could have been an excellent piece but 
it isn't. It reminds me of the horrors that people produce when they 
add cheap beatbox beats and say they are producing a remix of a 
Rahman original. Here Rahman has released what sounds like a cheap 
remix, but it is his original piece. I hope he never does that again 
and I hope someone can electronically cut out the dreadful beatbox 
repetition and let us hear what the original should have sounded like.
If he is turning out half-finished work with cheap beatbox effects 
because of what you call the pressure of deadlines and the immense 
work load or the absence of assistance, then he should hire more 
assistants or take on fewer assignments rather than compromise the 
quality of his music. 

Stevan Davies


> Agreed.  Found Yuvraaj's rhythm tracks to be the weakest link in the
> album.  He is also using synth tabla sounds, which is fine by me, 
but
> again underscores the diminished use of ethnic percussion in recent
> works, with exceptions like Khwaja and Azeem from JA.  
> 
> It could be a deliberate attempt by ARR to move away from rhythm 
based
> songs to more melody oriented numbers, which I feel has been the
> strongest trend by ARR recently.  His songs this year have been
> extremely melodious, the most meloodious music out of anyone in 
India,
> and for that, I am extremely happy.  His melodies and mid range
> arrangements are just mindblowing, even at the sacrifice of his 
rhythm
> tracks, which is just relative to his own previous work.
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], Syed Quadri <saregamaka@> 
wrote:
> >
> > 
> > I fully agree on the poster's comments. May be it is due to
> relocation of his lieutenants , such as Siva mani, Naveen and host 
of
> other musicians already made Mumbai as their homes. Even junior 
sound
> engineers like Aditya Modi relocated to Mumbai. Other factors could
> be immense work load , pressure of deadlines ( Although  AR 
never turn
> in the work on time...watch the recent interview hosted by NDTV and
> the trio was playing blame game in front of millions of audience ,
> that Ghai was expecting a western classical in two months and AR was
> due to submit the project for shoot last July ,Gulzar and Ghai 
belong
> to two different schools of thought, etc ,etc ).
> > it is a fact that , one person can not do things single handed. 
Gone
> are the days when MDs like Naushad, Madan mohan , Ilyaraja  RDB used
> to oversee all the departments.  This is the era where Md's like 
SEL,
> VS share their work load as a team and  live  in tinsel town, stay 
in
> touch with the best of people in the industry for PR work. whereby
> these smart marketing manipulators create negative publicity for AR
> and happily belonging to the camps controlling the industry. 
> >  
> > --- On Thu, 11/6/08, subhadip_jis <subhadip_jis@> wrote:
> > 
> > From: subhadip_jis <subhadip_jis@>
> > Subject: [arr] Do U find those creative percussions missing 
nowadays
> in Sir's arrangement?
> > To: [email protected]
> > Date: Thursday, November 6, 2008, 1:11 PM
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Guys, I want to share my views on this topic. I was listening to 
> > Rahman Sir's classic compositions from Iruvar-Alaypayithey -
Bombay, 
> > also "Thiruda Thiruda" numbers & "FIRE" BGMs.
> > I think the usual charm of tight percussion units in ARR's songs 
is no 
> > longer existing nowadays. The kind of minute details we used to 
get in 
> > every beat of it, may it be "humma humma" or "Thee Thee" or a 
semi-
> > classical number like "Radha kaise na jale..." is somewhere 
missing 
> > nowadays. Even this creative percussion were heard in RDB, 
(Remember 
> > the bike chasing or killing of minister scene !!!!), also a bit 
of it 
> > in Jodha Akbar (although he relied upon synthesized beats 
in "Jashn 
> > Bahara").
> > Does it mean Rahman Sir doesn't involve himself much in every 
section 
> > of a song, rather leave it to young bloods like Krishna Chetan? 
At 
> > least I personally felt lack of innovative percussion (using 
unusual 
> > beats & instruments) in last couple of films like "Jaane 
> > Tu..", "Sakkarakatti" , "ADA" & even in "Yuvraj". In "Yuvraj" 
also he 
> > uses a lot of techno stuffs as backing beats, which just supports 
the 
> > song by keeping the rhythm but doesn't increase it's beauty. Well 
> > composed numbers like "Tu hi meri dost" or "Manmohini" or "Dil ka 
> > rishta" has a very repeatative & fully synthesized beat which cud 
have 
> > been taken care of I think, a full orchestral sound is going side 
by 
> > side (just think of "Thiruda Thiruda")
> > 
> > Whats ur opinion ????????
> >
>


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