Sorry Rawat this is one funny post if I am not rude. > I think JA music is an absolute failure on part of ARR.
I disagree altogether. It was actually an "absolute success" on part of ARR. > Result was disastrous. music sunk down without a trace in the movie. Unbelievable! ARR gave a music which was the intergral part of the movie. Being it Azeem-o-shaan, Khawaja or Man mohana, all of them fit so perfectly with the flow of the movie, and same is true for the rest two. > Azeemoshaan Shanshaah is the only "public" song, and I found it irritatingly loud. Moulded lyrics worsened it. What a joke, Azeem-o-shaan Shahanshah is loud? no way, the song was one perfect example of how expert ARR is when it comes to grandeur songs and the organization of the instruments. It was defintely the best song of the album and one that I have seen personally being loved by people of all ages, kids to olds. I used to play it all the time with full volume while driving car with my family, as we all loved it absolutely especially the huge drums (or beats whatever) it starts with. And so I see it being used in background in many reality-TV shows and awards functions these days (recent examples are IIFA and SRGMP). It is a masterpiece song in all respects. > just because the songs were on a different concept as if ARR was composing for a soft love story between Jodha and Akbar, but the music movie was Princess and Queen Jodha and Azeemoshaan Shanshaah Akbar from beginning to end. I think JA was as much a love story (or may be more) as it was a grandeur. And one grandeur song to the scale of Azeem-o-shaan was more than enough for such a movie. > Though I don't blame ARR for Manmohana fiasco. The song was so long and too much noticeable, but that also I think is because AG must have kept on emphasing to ARR about showing hindu Jodha doing prayers in Muslim Akbar's palace, so ARR gave it a lot of importance and created such a loooonnnnggg non-subtle song that pinches in ears. Now that really hurts, because "Man mohana" was a classic, a masterpiece work completely and miserably ignored by many for un- understandable reasons. It is my most favorite among the album and soon will become my most listened ARR song. Actually I loved it so much that I created its ring-tone and set to my mobile phone since that time. The song is favorite of many of my friends and was actually equally loved by my younger brothers and sisters even though they did not understand single word of pure Hindi. And what you said? "song that pinches in ears", this is the most "unbelievable" comment I have ever heard about an ARR song. It is one truely sweet song with perfectly soulful vocals by Bela and the vocals and the rythm catch you instantly as soon as the song starts. It is an absolute classic. The only thing I complain is the pure Hindi lyrics (because I cannot understand it). Actually many times I really wished what a blessing it would have been if ARR gave two versions one with complete Urdu lyrics. > And ARR lost by not giving a "pyar kiya to darna kya" level of song in it. This I agree to "some" extent. There should have been a soft song (otherwise Azeem-o-shaan has done it) which would be remembered for ages to come like "pyar kiya to darna kya". - Jahanzeb --- In [email protected], V S Rawat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On 7/18/2008 8:35 PM India Time, _Gomzy_ wrote: > > > hehe Rawat, you will be disappointed to know that he is indeed the > > composer. AG is the best and gets the best out of ARR. > > I think JA music is an absolute failure on part of ARR. > > ARR didn't at all get the feel of the period movie. It seems ARR had > absolutely no idea the large - big - huge - grand - great - showman > style in which AG was making the movie. > > So, ARR composed music which is very personal, individualistic music, > and that didn't match at all, didn't fit at all in the grandeur of the > movie. > > Result was disastrous. music sunk down without a trace in the movie. > > This would be the only movie of ARR in which the director didn't butcher > the songs, still the songs didn't become noticeable, just because the > songs were on a different concept as if ARR was composing for a soft > love story between Jodha and Akbar, but the music movie was Princess and > Queen Jodha and Azeemoshaan Shanshaah Akbar from beginning to end. > Azeemoshaan Shanshaah is the only "public" song, and I found it > irritatingly loud. Moulded lyrics worsened it. > > How could it happen? > > Why, if ARR and AG are so intimate? > > Didn't AG tell ARR what he is doing in the movie so that ARR would have > included the grandeur in his music? > > it seems AG kept on emphasizing to ARR that he is making a love story > between Jodha and akbar, and that is why ARR created such a personal > music for the film, missing out on the grandeur. > > Mughal-e-azam also had the 100% classical personal song Prem Jogan Ban > Ke, that was shot on Dilip and Madhubala in the garden overnight. But > rest of the music was mostly with the grandeur that befits on a period > movie of this scale. Even the songs between individuals had a grandeur > of a period movie. > > ARR missed on this grandeur, and gave three looooonnnnng personal songs > - jashnebahara, in lamhon ke daman mein and khwaja mere khwaja. That was > disproportionate for the film. > > Though I don't blame ARR for Manmohana fiasco. The song was so long and > too much noticeable, but that also I think is because AG must have kept > on emphasing to ARR about showing hindu Jodha doing prayers in Muslim > Akbar's palace, so ARR gave it a lot of importance and created such a > loooonnnnggg non-subtle song that pinches in ears. > > JA would always hold the crown of music going in one direction and film > going orthogonally to that. And I blame AG 100% for that. he took ARR > for a ride for this film. And ARR lost by not giving a "pyar kiya to > darna kya" level of song in it. I think ARR was just not knowing that he > can give such a song in it. > > > > > On 7/18/08, *V S Rawat* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> > > wrote: > > > > On 7/18/2008 6:43 PM India Time, _Jahanzeb Farooq_ wrote: > > > > > Is out boss not composing for Ashutosh Gowariker's What's Your > > > Raashee? The wikipedia page > > > (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What%27s_Your_Raashee%3F) shows SEL as > > > music directors. I am completely surprised. Ashutosh has said in some > > > interview some days back that he wants A.R.Rahman for it. So sad! > > > > > > > Whatever. > > > > My view is that Ashutosh is not really a song-music person. He might > > have good ear for music but he doesn't have imagination enough to give > > good treatment to songs. > > > > All songs of Lagaan/ Swadesh were sort of fit in the movie. There > > was no > > special scene, no great visuals, no imagination at all. All routine > > scenes, all daily life situations. Just on the run. > > > > At most, a situation was created for the Kailash Kher song in Swades, > > but how shabbily it was patched in. > > > > So, I think it is no loss for ARR if Ashutosh goes away. It was > > Ashutosh's films that were benefitting from ARR's music, the films > > themselves didn't add to the beauty of ARR's songs. > > > > Ashutosh is not a 1% of Mani or Shankar when it comes to songs > > picturization. > > > > Of course, a film getting hit makes the music reach more persons, there > > is no denial of that. > > > > And, if ARR feels comfortable with Ashutosh and becomes more creative > > giving his better ones, then of course, it is a loss for us if Ashutosh > > breaks away. > > > > I didn't mention JA because the movie went of a totally different track > > away from music. I don't even remember where Jashnebahara or lamho ke > > daaman had been. Such a forgettable treatment. And remember the stale > > situation of Manmohna, the gaudy money-waster sets of > > Azeem-shaanshahanshah give pain when remember. JA was a shit, confused, > > purpose-less movie. > > > > I always felt that SEL are a perfect fit for Ashutosh's level. > > > > -- > > V > > -- > V >
