Thanks John, Some follow-up questions;
1. Is there a reassignment mechanism for ASNs? I'm not aware of one. A natural person not operating a business can obtain IP addresses from an ISP/LIR and expect them to be reassigned to them for their use. But how does a natural person not operating a business obtain an ASN for their use? This seems like a hole in the system. 2. If a natural person is not operating a business, and their only relationship to ARIN is indirectly through an ISP or LIR, what about portability, and what happens if the ISP/LIR goes bankrupt? If we do not allow a direct relationship between ARIN and natural persons not operating a business, then the system needs some mechanism to support ISP/LIR portability and protections for ISP/LIR bankruptcy. Allowing a direct relationship between ARIN and natural persons not operating a business seems easier than devising an ISP/LIR portability solution. Thanks. On Wed, Jun 4, 2025 at 9:48 AM John Curran <[email protected]> wrote: > David – > > An excellent question indeed. > > ARIN does not limit who can receive a simple or detailed reassignment. > For detailed reassignment, we will have them sign an RSA and create an > OrgID for party (allowing them to use services such as IRR), but the > resources remain ultimately under control of the ISP doing the > reassignment, and that ISP is ARIN's customer. > > Thanks! > /John > > John Curran > President and CEO > American Registry for Internet Numbers > > > On Jun 3, 2025, at 11:11 PM, David Farmer <[email protected]> wrote: > > John, > > Thanks to the ARIN Staff and you for the detailed staff and legal review; > it defines the problem well. > > I have a related question about organizations from a slightly > different angle than direct allocations made by ARIN. > > Considering reassignments and reallocations and their interactions with > organizations in the database, particularly when creating an Org ID or an > organization within the database to receive a reassignment or reallocation. > Are natural persons not operating a business allowed to be listed as an > organization solely for obtaining a detailed reassignment or reallocation? > Or are natural persons not operating a business effectively limited to > receiving a simple reassignment instead, because to be an organization, at > least for a direct allocation from ARIN, a natural person must be operating > a business? > > It seems unlikely that allowing natural persons to receive a reassignment > or reallocation would impact ARIN's B2B operational status, whereas a > direct allocation from ARIN would. > > Thanks. > > Thnaks > > > facilitate a detailed reassignment do curenet procedures > > On Tue, Jun 3, 2025 at 7:39 PM John Curran <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Folks - >> >> The (initial) staff and legal review for Draft Policy ARIN-2025-4 is >> available online in the Policy section of the ARIN website. >> >> Direct link - < >> https://www.arin.net/participate/policy/drafts/2025_4/#staff-and-legal-review-3-june-2025 >> > >> >> FYI, >> /John >> >> John Curran >> President and CEO >> American Registry for Internet Numbers >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ARIN-PPML >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> https://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml >> Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. >> > > > -- > =============================================== > David Farmer Email:[email protected] > Networking & Telecommunication Services > Office of Information Technology > University of Minnesota > 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 > Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 > =============================================== > > > -- =============================================== David Farmer Email:[email protected] Networking & Telecommunication Services Office of Information Technology University of Minnesota 2218 University Ave SE Phone: 612-626-0815 Minneapolis, MN 55414-3029 Cell: 612-812-9952 ===============================================
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