Martin, I disagree that this proposal would in any way eliminate needs basis. The intent is to make sure that all allocations are considered in aggregate so that those requesting space only have to have 80% utilization vs. 90%+ that happens in many cases where allocations are considered independently of each other.
Thanks, Jeff On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 2:15 AM, Martin Hannigan <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'd support this proposal being implemented post runout. Otherwise, opposed. > This is a pass on the needs test that the rest of us have been subject to. > Do away with all need, not small bits. > > > Best, > > -M< > > > > > On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Scott Leibrand <[email protected]> > wrote: >> No, but I think it will be before any new policy proposal moving at >> "normal" speed takes effect. (The /24 minimum allocation size might take >> effect before then. If so, that will probably accelerate runout further.) >> >> If you think (as I do) that this policy change would still be useful after >> runout when most requests result in a transfer, you could probably sidestep >> a lot of potential opposition by specifying that it would only go into >> effect after free pool runout, or would only affect transfers. >> >> Scott >> >>> On Apr 30, 2014, at 8:51 AM, Jeffrey Lyon <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Scott, >>> >>> Also, we're already in Phase 4, so isn't it fair to say that the free >>> pool is essentially exhausted? >>> >>> Thanks, Jeff >>> >>>> On Thu, May 1, 2014 at 12:44 AM, Scott Leibrand >>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> This seems to me like a reasonable operational practice for ARIN to use >>>> to >>>> help prevent a run on the remaining free pool from organizations with >>>> large >>>> quantities of existing space. >>>> >>>> Are you trying to change this before free pool runout, or are you >>>> concerned >>>> with making needs justification a bit easier for transfers once the free >>>> pool is exhausted? I would support the latter, but not the former. >>>> >>>> -Scott >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wednesday, April 30, 2014, Jeffrey Lyon <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Friends, Colleagues, >>>>> >>>>> A couple of years ago I brought up an issue I had run into where the >>>>> utilization requirement for new requests is being calculated on a per >>>>> allocation basis rather than in aggregate. For example, if an >>>>> organization has 4 x /22 and 3 of them are utilized 100% and the >>>>> fourth utilized at 75%, that request would be denied. This is a bit >>>>> out of balance as an organization with a single /20 utilized at 80% >>>>> would have less efficient utilization but would be eligible to request >>>>> additional space. >>>>> >>>>> The last time this was discussed it sounded as if the community would >>>>> support a policy proposal to change this calculation to be considered >>>>> in aggregate vs. per assignment. Does this remain the case? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> -- >>>>> Jeffrey A. Lyon, CISSP-ISSMP >>>>> Fellow, Black Lotus Communications >>>>> mobile: (757) 304-0668 | gtalk: [email protected] | skype: >>>>> blacklotus.net >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> PPML >>>>> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >>>>> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). >>>>> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >>>>> http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml >>>>> Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Scott >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Jeffrey A. Lyon, CISSP-ISSMP >>> Fellow, Black Lotus Communications >>> mobile: (757) 304-0668 | gtalk: [email protected] | skype: >>> blacklotus.net >> _______________________________________________ >> PPML >> You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to >> the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). >> Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: >> http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml >> Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues. > -- Jeffrey A. Lyon, CISSP-ISSMP Fellow, Black Lotus Communications mobile: (757) 304-0668 | gtalk: [email protected] | skype: blacklotus.net _______________________________________________ PPML You are receiving this message because you are subscribed to the ARIN Public Policy Mailing List ([email protected]). Unsubscribe or manage your mailing list subscription at: http://lists.arin.net/mailman/listinfo/arin-ppml Please contact [email protected] if you experience any issues.
