That one is set in my config. Yes, maybe test turning it off?
But when I changed "Incoming Check Timeout" from 1500 to 30, I also adjusted "Incoming Check Interval" from 15 to 30, to align with the old postings' recommendations. I didn't think that would mean much, but perhaps it did. Thomas On Thu, 6 Feb 2025, Barry Landy wrote: > I notice this only has an effect if "Enable Incoming Folders Checking" > is set. Maybe unset that (if it is set)? > > On Thu, 6 Feb 2025, Thomas Gramstad wrote: > > :> > :>I changed "Incoming Check Timeout" from 1500 to 30. This has > :>greatly reduced the problem. Not eliminated it, but it happens > :>much less frequently. > :> > :>Thanks for the TCP values, I'll add those too. > :> > :>PS: Also, the > and then choose INBOX folder works too -- not > :>necessary to quit or logout+login. > :> > :>Thomas > :> > :> > :>On Wed, 5 Feb 2025, Barry Landy via Alpine-info wrote: > :> > :>> I experimented with some settings which have helped a lot but not cured > :>> the problem completely. > :>> > :>> the settings are > :>> > :>> mail checkinterval has always been large > :>> > :>> TCP open timeout = 100 > :>> TCP query timeout = 100 > :>> TCP close connection timeout=150 > :>> (this i first made 100 then raised it) > :>> > :>> I put these in individually and observed effects. > :>> > :>> I still get the dread message occasionally with no common factor that I > :>> can spot. I would be greateful for other suggestions of what to try. > :>> > :>> FYI I am running under Windows (11) and not UNix. > :>> > :>> > :>> > :>> On Sun, 2 Feb 2025, Barry Landy via Alpine-info wrote: > :>> > :>> :>I have exactly the same problem for exactly the same reason. > :>> :> > :>> :>Not due to mail check interval as that was already large. > :>> :> > :>> :>I am extremely interested to know if any of you get anywhere with > :>> :>setting timeout values. > :>> :> > :>> :> > :>> :>On Sun, 2 Feb 2025, Thomas Gramstad via Alpine-info wrote: > :>> :> > :>> :>:> > :>> :>:>Thank you Milt, those links were very informative! > :>> :>:> > :>> :>:>Then I checked all the timeout values in my config: > :>> :>:> > :>> :>:>I have Check incoming mail interval at 15 seconds, and > :>> :>:>vaguely remember there was a reason for that many years > :>> :>:>ago. > :>> :>:> > :>> :>:>I have at least 4 TCP-related timeouts, but they are all > :>> :>:>set at "No Value". I suspect I should do something about > :>> :>:>that. What does "No Value" mean for those? > :>> :>:> > :>> :>:>Then there is this one, which I have no idea what means: > :>> :>:> > :>> :>:>User Input Timeout = <No Value Set: using "0"> > :>> :>:> > :>> :>:>There are a few others (like "Rsh timeout") which sound > :>> :>:>less relevant. > :>> :>:> > :>> :>:>So there seem to be quite a few more timeouts in Alpine now than > :>> :>:>in 2016. > :>> :>:> > :>> :>:>(By "logging into Alpine" I meant the OAuth thing which requires > :>> :>:>me to enter a password that it has stored.) > :>> :>:> > :>> :>:>I'll try the < up one level thing the next time the disconnect > :>> :>:>occurs. > :>> :>:> > :>> :>:>But please advise about the 4 TCP settings above. > :>> :>:> > :>> :>:>Thomas Gramstad > :>> :>:> > :>> :>:> > :>> :>:>On Sun, 2 Feb 2025, Milt Epstein via Alpine-info wrote: > :>> :>:> > :>> :>:>> I didn't think I had anything to say about this because I haven't > :>> :>:>> experienced this error, but then I found a reference to this error > :>> :>:>> message in my saved mail, in an old thread on this mailing list > (from > :>> :>:>> January 28, 2016). > :>> :>:>> > :>> :>:>> So I went to the mailing list info url in each list message: > :>> :>:>> > :>> :>:>> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info > :>> :>:>> > :>> :>:>> and went to the list archives. But the list archives there only > goes > :>> :>:>> back about three years. But I did find a list archive at marc.info: > :>> :>:>> > :>> :>:>> https://marc.info/?l=alpine-info&r=1&w=2 > :>> :>:>> > :>> :>:>> And then from January 2016: > :>> :>:>> > :>> :>:>> https://marc.info/?l=alpine-info&r=1&b=201601&w=2 > :>> :>:>> > :>> :>:>> And then the thread in question ([Alpine-info] Best timeout settings > :>> :>:>> for connecting to Exchange server?): > :>> :>:>> > :>> :>:>> https://marc.info/?t=145399947700006&r=1&w=2 > :>> :>:>> > :>> :>:>> You might take a look at that to see if there's anything helpful > :>> :>:>> there. > :>> :>:>> > :>> :>:>> Also, people's suggestion to back out of the folder (using "<") and > :>> :>:>> re-enter it (rather than quitting Alpine) seems worth a try. > :>> :>:>> > :>> :>:>> BTW, what do you mean by "log in to Alpine"? (Because one doesn't > :>> :>:>> really have to log in to alpine. Probably you're having alpine > :>> :>:>> connect to some mail server -- which may be relevant to getting that > :>> :>:>> error message; but it does seem that others replying to your message > :>> :>:>> have figured that out.) > :>> :>:>> > :>> :>:>> Milt Epstein > :>> :>:>> mepst...@illinois.edu > :>> :>:>> > :>> :>:>> > :>> :>:>> On Sun, 2 Feb 2025, Thomas Gramstad via Alpine-info wrote: > :>> :>:>> > :>> :>:>> > The Subject: line is an error message that I get very often > :>> :>:>> > in Alpine, like several times per hour: > :>> :>:>> > > :>> :>:>> > [MAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR] > :>> :>:>> > > :>> :>:>> > When this happens, in the folder I am in I can still see the > :>> :>:>> > numbered list of messages, but if I try to open a message to read > :>> :>:>> > it, there is nothing to read. I then have to quit Alpine, start > :>> :>:>> > Alpine a new, and log in to Alpine, and then I can read the > :>> :>:>> > messages. > :>> :>:>> > > :>> :>:>> > This frequent need to quit and restart is annoying. Is there > :>> :>:>> > something I can do to prevent, or at least reduce the number of > :>> :>:>> > such incidents? Like checking something more often, or less > :>> :>:>> > often, or switch something off? > :>> :>:>> > > :>> :>:>> > Thomas Gramstad > :>> :>:>> > _______________________________________________ > :>> :>:>> > Alpine-info mailing list > :>> :>:>> > Alpine-info@u.washington.edu > :>> :>:>> > > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info__;!!DZ3fjg!6Wjel1CAJEdPWB9pFlfWG1dMiSfiJ70n2wME-SxsxsrM_yvDp8HOFQEpNkJ9DuV2GFcMP7yAahkNSOuXydQJE5tIQQhdAB0i$ > > :>> :>:>> > > :>> :>:>> _______________________________________________ > :>> :>:>> Alpine-info mailing list > :>> :>:>> Alpine-info@u.washington.edu > :>> :>:>> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info > :>> :>:>> > :>> :>:>_______________________________________________ > :>> :>:>Alpine-info mailing list > :>> :>:>Alpine-info@u.washington.edu > :>> :>:>http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info > :>> :>:> > :>> :> > :>> :> > :>> > :>> > :> > > _______________________________________________ Alpine-info mailing list Alpine-info@u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info
