interesting that "incoming check" benefits from a **lower** timeout.
Will try that. Most of the time I use "L" "enter" to reopen the relevant folder. If I am reading an email it needs "I" "L" "enter" On Thu, 6 Feb 2025, Thomas Gramstad wrote: :> :>I changed "Incoming Check Timeout" from 1500 to 30. This has :>greatly reduced the problem. Not eliminated it, but it happens :>much less frequently. :> :>Thanks for the TCP values, I'll add those too. :> :>PS: Also, the > and then choose INBOX folder works too -- not :>necessary to quit or logout+login. :> :>Thomas :> :> :>On Wed, 5 Feb 2025, Barry Landy via Alpine-info wrote: :> :>> I experimented with some settings which have helped a lot but not cured :>> the problem completely. :>> :>> the settings are :>> :>> mail checkinterval has always been large :>> :>> TCP open timeout = 100 :>> TCP query timeout = 100 :>> TCP close connection timeout=150 :>> (this i first made 100 then raised it) :>> :>> I put these in individually and observed effects. :>> :>> I still get the dread message occasionally with no common factor that I :>> can spot. I would be greateful for other suggestions of what to try. :>> :>> FYI I am running under Windows (11) and not UNix. :>> :>> :>> :>> On Sun, 2 Feb 2025, Barry Landy via Alpine-info wrote: :>> :>> :>I have exactly the same problem for exactly the same reason. :>> :> :>> :>Not due to mail check interval as that was already large. :>> :> :>> :>I am extremely interested to know if any of you get anywhere with :>> :>setting timeout values. :>> :> :>> :> :>> :>On Sun, 2 Feb 2025, Thomas Gramstad via Alpine-info wrote: :>> :> :>> :>:> :>> :>:>Thank you Milt, those links were very informative! :>> :>:> :>> :>:>Then I checked all the timeout values in my config: :>> :>:> :>> :>:>I have Check incoming mail interval at 15 seconds, and :>> :>:>vaguely remember there was a reason for that many years :>> :>:>ago. :>> :>:> :>> :>:>I have at least 4 TCP-related timeouts, but they are all :>> :>:>set at "No Value". I suspect I should do something about :>> :>:>that. What does "No Value" mean for those? :>> :>:> :>> :>:>Then there is this one, which I have no idea what means: :>> :>:> :>> :>:>User Input Timeout = <No Value Set: using "0"> :>> :>:> :>> :>:>There are a few others (like "Rsh timeout") which sound :>> :>:>less relevant. :>> :>:> :>> :>:>So there seem to be quite a few more timeouts in Alpine now than :>> :>:>in 2016. :>> :>:> :>> :>:>(By "logging into Alpine" I meant the OAuth thing which requires :>> :>:>me to enter a password that it has stored.) :>> :>:> :>> :>:>I'll try the < up one level thing the next time the disconnect :>> :>:>occurs. :>> :>:> :>> :>:>But please advise about the 4 TCP settings above. :>> :>:> :>> :>:>Thomas Gramstad :>> :>:> :>> :>:> :>> :>:>On Sun, 2 Feb 2025, Milt Epstein via Alpine-info wrote: :>> :>:> :>> :>:>> I didn't think I had anything to say about this because I haven't :>> :>:>> experienced this error, but then I found a reference to this error :>> :>:>> message in my saved mail, in an old thread on this mailing list (from :>> :>:>> January 28, 2016). :>> :>:>> :>> :>:>> So I went to the mailing list info url in each list message: :>> :>:>> :>> :>:>> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info :>> :>:>> :>> :>:>> and went to the list archives. But the list archives there only goes :>> :>:>> back about three years. But I did find a list archive at marc.info: :>> :>:>> :>> :>:>> https://marc.info/?l=alpine-info&r=1&w=2 :>> :>:>> :>> :>:>> And then from January 2016: :>> :>:>> :>> :>:>> https://marc.info/?l=alpine-info&r=1&b=201601&w=2 :>> :>:>> :>> :>:>> And then the thread in question ([Alpine-info] Best timeout settings :>> :>:>> for connecting to Exchange server?): :>> :>:>> :>> :>:>> https://marc.info/?t=145399947700006&r=1&w=2 :>> :>:>> :>> :>:>> You might take a look at that to see if there's anything helpful :>> :>:>> there. :>> :>:>> :>> :>:>> Also, people's suggestion to back out of the folder (using "<") and :>> :>:>> re-enter it (rather than quitting Alpine) seems worth a try. :>> :>:>> :>> :>:>> BTW, what do you mean by "log in to Alpine"? (Because one doesn't :>> :>:>> really have to log in to alpine. Probably you're having alpine :>> :>:>> connect to some mail server -- which may be relevant to getting that :>> :>:>> error message; but it does seem that others replying to your message :>> :>:>> have figured that out.) :>> :>:>> :>> :>:>> Milt Epstein :>> :>:>> mepst...@illinois.edu :>> :>:>> :>> :>:>> :>> :>:>> On Sun, 2 Feb 2025, Thomas Gramstad via Alpine-info wrote: :>> :>:>> :>> :>:>> > The Subject: line is an error message that I get very often :>> :>:>> > in Alpine, like several times per hour: :>> :>:>> > :>> :>:>> > [MAIL FOLDER "INBOX" CLOSED DUE TO ACCESS ERROR] :>> :>:>> > :>> :>:>> > When this happens, in the folder I am in I can still see the :>> :>:>> > numbered list of messages, but if I try to open a message to read :>> :>:>> > it, there is nothing to read. I then have to quit Alpine, start :>> :>:>> > Alpine a new, and log in to Alpine, and then I can read the :>> :>:>> > messages. :>> :>:>> > :>> :>:>> > This frequent need to quit and restart is annoying. Is there :>> :>:>> > something I can do to prevent, or at least reduce the number of :>> :>:>> > such incidents? Like checking something more often, or less :>> :>:>> > often, or switch something off? :>> :>:>> > :>> :>:>> > Thomas Gramstad :>> :>:>> > _______________________________________________ :>> :>:>> > Alpine-info mailing list :>> :>:>> > Alpine-info@u.washington.edu :>> :>:>> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info__;!!DZ3fjg!6Wjel1CAJEdPWB9pFlfWG1dMiSfiJ70n2wME-SxsxsrM_yvDp8HOFQEpNkJ9DuV2GFcMP7yAahkNSOuXydQJE5tIQQhdAB0i$ :>> :>:>> > :>> :>:>> _______________________________________________ :>> :>:>> Alpine-info mailing list :>> :>:>> Alpine-info@u.washington.edu :>> :>:>> http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info :>> :>:>> :>> :>:>_______________________________________________ :>> :>:>Alpine-info mailing list :>> :>:>Alpine-info@u.washington.edu :>> :>:>http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info :>> :>:> :>> :> :>> :> :>> :>> :> -- Barry Landy Home: +44-1223-570417 192, Gilbert Road College: +44-1223-362062 Mobile +44-7771-933945 Cambridge CB4 3PB England Email barryla...@cantab.net _______________________________________________ Alpine-info mailing list Alpine-info@u.washington.edu http://mailman12.u.washington.edu/mailman/listinfo/alpine-info
