On Sat, Mar 26, 2022 at 7:47 AM nix via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On 3/26/22 02:31, Aspen via agora-discussion wrote: > > The bigger problem I have is just... what's the point of this sort of > > finger point? When I asked the referring party, e said that e wanted to > > create more work for our Honorable Referee, > > E clearly stated this part was a joke, I'm not a fan of taking players' > words out of context to change their meaning. I apologize for this. When I was going to sleep last night, I was like, "gee, I'm glad I cut that bit, it wasn't contributing much." Apparently I did not in fact cut that bit. So, uhh, whoops. secretsnail, I apologize and retract this portion of my message. A couple weeks ago snail was given 2 blots by G. for no real reason > except possibly to prevent em from legitimately winning. Nobody > complained about that. So it doesn't seem to me people care about the > blots particularly. To me, the blots by blot-B-gone mechanism is different in that it is *intentionally* arbitrary. I don't know how I would feel if someone tried it on me - that would be an interesting experiment to run, actually. Perversely, I'm rapidly coming around to something like the Blot Wars system G. posted, despite G. being the person I've disagreed with most about how to navigate the current system. I'd really like a comprehensive legislative solution. It feels like all of the solutions that everyone drafts are just trying to reduce the pain of blots by granting more leniency. If we could somehow make the system more humorous (either by gamifying it or making it explicitly non-punitive somehow), maybe we could change the approach people have to blots and finger-points. It feels like it would take something like that to change my personal approach, at any rate. > If the issue is what is and isn't a punishable offense then secretsnail > followed the letter of the law. I don't think e intentionally violated > Agoran custom. If someone breaks social custom e's not familiar with, e > should be told about it, not chastised. And if the letter of the law > allows apparently egregious breakages of customs, then change the law. It's been a matter of public record for a while that I don't like the increase in finger points lately. I've expressed this to secretsnail publicly in the past, in my strongly disapprove message wrt. some of eir previous finger points. It seems like we have a problem here in terms of the rules saying one thing, and the social custom being another thing. Social change is bound to make some people, like me, grouchy. I am not going to apologize for being grouchy or for publicly expressing that I am grouchy. (I know you haven't specifically asked me to apologize for this, it's more of a general comment.) I'm endeavoring not to coke across as personally angry towards secretsnail, as e is following the rules as written. I'm also endeavoring to specify that I am frustrated at the moment and my words should be taken in that light, rather than as an expression of enmity towards anyone. However, I am truly frustrated by the way the ongoing realignment is taking place, and I think that I needed to express that. -Aspen >
