On Tue, 2 Jun 2020 at 01:57, nch via agora-discussion
<agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote:
> On Monday, June 1, 2020 8:46:09 PM CDT James Cook via agora-discussion wrote:
> >
> > Isn't that still a difference in intended meaning? Maybe I didn't
> > phrase it clearly enough the first time, but my intended meaning was
> > "Right now at the moment I'm calling this CFJ, the truth value
> > (true/false) of 'Falsifian owns at least one blot' equals the truth
> > value of 'English Wikipedia has an article titled "Sponge"'".
>
> If you had used "right now" or "currently" I'd agree with your reading, see
> below.
>
> > Also, CFJ statements about things like "Alice owns a blot" are usually
> > assumed to be about the current situation at the time the statement
> > was called. Are you saying the words "if and only if" override that
> > default, and lead you interpret my statement as encompassing other
> > times and/or situations other than the current one? Or am I
> > misunderstanding your argument?
>
> There's no "override". In "Alice owns a blot" there's no ambiguity about
> whether that statement is present progressive. When you introduce a modal, you
> also introduce an ambiguity: now the sentence could be present progressive or
> it could be conditional, which can refer to an "always" time frame or a
> "currently" time frame without clarity. My honest first take of your CFJ was a
> conditional always time frame.
>
> --
> nch

I think I have some linguistics to learn. I think a quick web search
has taught me what the "present progressive" tense is, but I'm not
sure I've grokked what a modal is.

I do see that the "if and only if" wording opens the door to another
interpretation. Interpreting it that way feels a little odd to me, but
maybe that's because my intended meaning is still stuck firmly in my
mind.

- Falsifian

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