On Sat, 1 Feb 2020 at 16:30, ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk
<ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk> wrote:
> On Sat, 2020-02-01 at 16:17 +0000, James Cook via agora-discussion
> wrote:
> > This is a counter-proto to Alexis's "Ratification by Legal Fiction",
> > in the sense that I think it also fixes the problem of ratification
> > failing due to minimal gamestate changes being ambiguous. It is a
> > more radical change and makes the use of ratification less concise,
> > but in my opinion the reward is that it greatly increases simplicity
> > and certainty in what the effect of ratification actually is.
>
> A problem that the current rules have, and that I don't think this
> fixes: what happens if a ratification simulates a change to the past
> gamestate that would prevent the ratification itself from having
> occured, or from causing it to do something different?
>
> I'm not sure what the correct answer to this is, but I think it's a
> question worth thinking about.

If I understand Alexis's proto right, it deals with that by simply
declaring that if establishing a legal fiction would prevent that same
legal fiction from being established, it's not established.

So perhaps add something to Rule 1551 like "If a ratifying a
retroactive event would prevent that ratification from occurring, the
ratification does not occur in the first place."?

I suspect there will still be ways to get paradoxes. May be an
inevitable consequence of having such a powerful tool available.

- Falsifian

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