On Wed, 2020-01-29 at 17:25 +0000, Timon Walshe-Grey via agora- discussion wrote: > Aris wrote: > > For the record, I strongly disagree. I think Spivak is part of Agoran > > culture at this point, like the “or” suffixes at the end of offices. It’s > > part of what makes Agora different and unique. In short, it’s a dialectal > > variation, and I think Agora having its own dialect, not just its own > > terminology, is pretty awesome. > > Yeah, I'm with you on this one. Tbh I think Falsifian expressed it well > when e talked about seeing the ruleset as some sort of ancient relic - > the things like "-or" suffixes, Spivak pronouns, CAN/SHOULD/MUST, "in a > timely fashion", etc. are all pieces of history reflecting how the game > came to be the way it is. Heck, even a very small amount of the language > from the prototypical Nomic is still in the current ruleset!
I'm also in favour of retaining Spivak (although I'm not sure how much weight my opinion should have when I'm not actually playing). I should note, though, that "in a timely fashion" is a relatively new phrasing. For a long time, the standard phrasing was "as soon as possible" (which was nonetheless defined to mean "within seven days"), which was perhaps even more quirkily Agoran, but very confusing to new players (as holding out the actions in question until the end of the seven-day window was accepted and often done intentionally). -- ais523
