On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 2:19 PM Kerim Aydin <ke...@uw.edu> wrote:
>
>
> On 10/18/2019 1:11 PM, Jason Cobb wrote:
> > I submit the following proposal:
> >
> > Title: R2478 Fix
> >
> > AI: 1.7
> >
> > Text:
> >
> > {
> >
> > Amend Rule 2478 ("Vigilante Justice") by replacing the text "a person (the
> > perp) who plays the game" with the text "a player (the perp)".
> >
> > }
> >
>
> The purpose of that clause is that, at one point, it was found that people
> whom are not players but sign contracts to allow them participate are, in
> fact "playing" the game by common definition. This was because someone
> purposefully deregistered, and then kept "playing" via a contract, in order
> to do illegal things via the contract while avoiding punishment.
>
> This is not an argument for or against your proposal, but just to point out
> that the wording had a purpose (I'm not at all sure it still "works" as
> intended, if it ever did).
It was added by my proposal, P7886, "Card Reform and Expansion v4". I
think my explanation of the reasoning behind it there was pretty
decent, it's at [1]. In retrospect, that proposal was a terrible idea
in a lot of ways, and is a good example of how *not* to write a
proposal.
Currently, this sort of penalty is allowed for the Cold Hand of
Justice, but not for Summary Judgement. That seems like an error to
me. I'd be tempted to repeal the mandate entirely, but a) allowing
non-players to join contracts is potentially fun; and, more
importantly, b) the rules are still vulnerable to abuse by
non-players in the same way they were back then. I also think the
phrase "person who plays the game" seems messy and unnecessarily
confusing (pretty characteristic of my writing in general, especially
back then).
I'd unify the Cold Hand of Justice and Summary Judgement
on allowing the punishment of persons, on the grounds that a person
who isn't involved with the game is unlikely to commit a rules
violation. Alternatively, we could go the other direction, banning
non-players from joining contracts but making them immune to
prosecutions. The current state of affairs is definitely not great,
and I'd like to thank Jason Cobb for bringing up the issue.
[1]
https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-discussion/2017-September/044934.html
-Aris
