On Mon, Jul 16, 2018 at 8:50 AM Alex Smith <ais...@alumni.bham.ac.uk> wrote:

> On Mon, 2018-07-16 at 08:14 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > Oh sorry, Aris's is deeply-hidden in the distribution message.  Bad Aris.
> > (that goes beyond my personal bounds for ambiguity, but I'm not the
> officer
> > so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ )
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> We should probably legislate a standard for this. A successful scam I
> perpetrated many years ago worked on the basis of an intent buried in
> the depths of the Registrar report, so we should probably have some
> clear legal basis on when an announcement / public statement is too
> hidden to be effective. (Admittedly, the scam in question was related
> to a Registrar power, so it wasn't quite a maximally inappropriate
> place to put it, but submitting proposals is related to a Promotor
> power, so…)


No objection to creating a standard for deliberately hiding actions in
messages. That said, this wasn't deliberately hidden. It was written right
where this kind of note is always written. The notation changed from a * to
+ as well. I can try adding a note somewhere near the top when I do this
kind of thing, since it seems to confuse people. I'm honestly not sure what
all the fuss is about this time. This notation has been in use for quite a
while [1], and to the best of my knowledge, no one has ever complained
about it before. Now, I'll grant that it's not very common these days, but
I used it without any confusion a few weeks ago, and I'm likely to start
using it even more again with the new pending system. I think right now
it's mostly a matter of getting people used to it. I'm sorry I didn't
mention that I was doing it, I just figured (to the extent I thought about
it) that the change from * to + would be sufficient indicator.

-Aris

[1]
https://mailman.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-official/2015-January/010959.html

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