I don't think we want to waive platonism to that degree. However, it would seem reasonable for you to issue a ruling on both now, and then only formalize it once it actually gets assigned to you, given that you've already gone through the waiting period once. Does anyone else object to that arraignment? One possible alternative would be for you (or someone else, I suppose) to deputize for Arbitor to fulfill some old business and then assign yourself, which would have the advantage that we'd have an Arbitor again.
-Aris On Wed, Apr 25, 2018 at 8:02 PM, Ned Strange <edwardostra...@gmail.com> wrote: > Excuse me, these are 2 CFJs. Would Agora see fit to interpret my > actions as assigning both CFJs to myself? > > On Thu, Apr 26, 2018 at 11:20 AM, Ned Strange <edwardostra...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> I assign this CFJ to myself, being without objections. >> >> On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 6:33 PM, Ned Strange <edwardostra...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >>> I think you intended to assign a CFJ to yourself about 8 days ago, G. >>> Should probably do so. >>> >>> I intend to assign this CFJ to myself without 3 objections. >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2018 at 3:38 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> I find Shenanigans. Since the zombie act-on-behalf rule means >>>> Corona CANNOT cause Quazie to perform illegal actions: >>>> -If the bid was illegal, it failed and no crime was commited; >>>> -If the bid was legal, no crime was committed. >>>> >>>> On Thu, 19 Apr 2018, Aris Merchant wrote: >>>>> I point my finger at Corona for violations of Rule 2532, "Zombies", >>>>> and/or Rule 2466, "Acting on Behalf", committed by causing Quazie to >>>>> violate Rule 2550, "Bidding". I CFJ, barring G., on the statement >>>>> 'Rule 2532, "Zombies", enables zombie owners to act on behalf of their >>>>> zombies.' I CFJ, barring Corona, on the statement 'Corona has >>>>> violated of Rule 2532, "Zombies", and/or Rule 2466, "Acting on >>>>> Behalf", by causing Quazie to violate Rule 2550 "Bidding".' >>>>> >>>>> [For reference, I don't really see how a violation could have been >>>>> committed, but this is all rather unclear and I'd like to see what >>>>> people think." >>>>> >>>>> Arguments: >>>>> >>>>> If Quazie bid in the auction, e committed a violation of Rule 2550, >>>>> "Bidding", and in particular the provision that "A person SHALL NOT >>>>> bid on an Auction if it would be impossible for em to pay that amount >>>>> at the conclusion of the Auction." Quazie did not have any money at >>>>> the time of the bid, and did not get any by the end of the auction. We >>>>> clearly do not hold em culpable for this violation, given that we do >>>>> not in general hold people responsible for violations they could not >>>>> reasonably have avoided, but the violation remains nevertheless. >>>>> >>>>> If Corona successfully caused Quazie to bid, e violated Rule 2466, >>>>> "Acting on Behalf", and specifically the provision that "A person >>>>> SHALL NOT act on behalf of another person if doing so causes the >>>>> second person to violate the rules." What remains in question is >>>>> whether or not Corona's action succeeded. There are three >>>>> possibilities: it succeeded, it failed in this specific case, or it >>>>> never works at all. I believe that it is one of the later two. >>>>> >>>>> The crucial question is one of interpreting Rule 2532, "Zombies". >>>>> which states that "A zombie's master, if another player, is allowed to >>>>> act on behalf of the zombie (i.e. as the zombie's agent) to perform >>>>> LEGAL actions." The phrase "allowed to" is ambiguous, it could mean >>>>> CAN or MAY, although I find it somewhat unlikely that it means both of >>>>> them at once. If it means CAN, then the action failed because the >>>>> action was ILLEGAL, and the affixed conditional resolves to false. >>>>> >>>>> I believe that the phrase probably means MAY. Granted, the Rule 217 >>>>> factors suggest that the phrase means CAN, but I don't think that they >>>>> can overturn the presumption to the contrary in this case. I'm not >>>>> saying that "allow' can never mean "enable', but reading "allowed to" >>>>> to mean "able to" doesn't really sound right. For instance, seems >>>>> reasonable for someone to say "I will allow you to open your mind", >>>>> but (to my ears) it sounds ridiculous to say that "you are allowed to >>>>> open your mind". I think the only reason there even appears to be >>>>> ambiguity is because of preconceived notions of what the zombie rule >>>>> means. Reading the text without judgement, the MAY reading is the >>>>> obvious one. Under this reading, there is no provision anywhere that >>>>> says that an owner CAN act on behalf of a zombie, so e can't. >>>>> >>>>> -Aris >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> From V.J. Rada >> >> >> >> -- >> From V.J. Rada > > > > -- > From V.J. Rada
