I recommend a Green Card, on the basis that e was both a new player
and new to the office.

-Aris

On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:04 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
<p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Oh, good point. Sorry about this mess. I believe ATMunn still violated
> SHALLs and therefore I point my finger at em for failure to state the
> quorum.
>
> On 11/05/2017 09:01 PM, Aris Merchant wrote:
>> If no rule says it's an essential parameter, it isn't an essential
>> parameter. There's no reason to read that into the quorum rule. R107
>> states that the initiation must include "any additional information
>> defined by the rules as essential parameters", I see no such
>> definition here.
>>
>>
>> -Aris
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>> <p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I think quorum is an essential parameter, given the SHALL requirement
>>> associated with it.
>>>
>>> On 11/05/2017 08:52 PM, Alexis Hunt wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 at 20:50 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
>>>> <p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
>>>> <mailto:p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>     Sorry about this. CoE: Quorum was not specified on the first Agoran
>>>>     Decision, therefore neither decision was initiated.
>>>>
>>>>     I wish I had noticed this earlier, but I was starting to count the
>>>>     votes
>>>>     and went to check quorum and saw that it was missing. Unfortunately, I
>>>>     think this means that you can never intiate this decision because you
>>>>     CAN only do so in a timely fashion.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I don't think that's true. Nothing says that an initiation is invalid
>>>> without a quorum. The rules are explicit that an incorrect quorum
>>>> invalidates a decision, but even without that, rule 879 is power 2 and
>>>> can't override a valid initiation at power 3 I think.
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