Sorry about this. CoE: Quorum was not specified on the first Agoran Decision, therefore neither decision was initiated.
I wish I had noticed this earlier, but I was starting to count the votes and went to check quorum and saw that it was missing. Unfortunately, I think this means that you can never intiate this decision because you CAN only do so in a timely fashion. On 11/01/2017 09:15 AM, ATMunn wrote: > On 10/31/2017 9:34 PM, VJ Rada wrote: >> Sorry Munn, neither the initiation of the election nor the >> distribution of the proposal worked. Rules say the following "the ADoP >> CAN and SHALL, _in the same message_: 1) If the election is contested, >> initiate an Agoran decision to select the winner of the election (the >> poll). For this decision, the Vote Collector is the Assessor, the >> valid options are the candidates for that election (including those >> who become candidates after its initiation), and the voting method is >> instant runoff. 2) Distribute all pendingCampaign Proposals associated >> with the election.". >> >> Gotta be in the same message. >> >> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 11:35 AM, ATMunn <iamingodsa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Ah, thanks for letting me know. >>> >>> >>> On 10/31/2017 8:32 PM, VJ Rada wrote: >>>> >>>> (by the way ATMunn, I am uncommitted). >>>> >>>> I vote for myself, and FOR my campaign proposal. >>>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus >>>> <p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I vote in favour. >>>>> >>>>> On 10/31/2017 08:29 PM, ATMunn wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I was too lazy to check for very long, sorry. >>>>>> >>>>>> I hereby distribute the below campaign proposal, initiating the >>>>>> Agoran >>>>>> Decision of whether to adopt it. For this decision, the vote >>>>>> collector >>>>>> is the Assessor, the quorum is [quorum] and the valid options are >>>>>> FOR >>>>>> and AGAINST (PRESENT is always a valid vote, as are conditionals). >>>>>> >>>>>> /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// >>>>>> >>>>>> Title: Referee Reform and Card Appealability >>>>>> Author: V.J. Rada >>>>>> Co-author(s): >>>>>> Adoption Index: 2 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Change the power of rule 2451, Executive Orders, to 2.0. In this >>>>>> rule, >>>>>> replace the text "The reason for the card MAY be any grievance >>>>>> held by >>>>>> the Prime Minister" with "Notwithstanding rule 2426, the reason for >>>>>> the card MAY be any grievance held by the Prime Minister" >>>>>> >>>>>> In rule 2426, replace the text >>>>>> "Cards CANNOT be issued except by players by announcement. Any >>>>>> attempt >>>>>> to issue a Card, or any intent for a dependent action to issue a >>>>>> Card, >>>>>> is INEFFECTIVE if it does not include the following information: >>>>>> >>>>>> The type of Card being issued, >>>>>> The person to whom the Card is being issued (the bad sport), and >>>>>> The specific action, inaction of the bad sport giving rise to the >>>>>> Card >>>>>> (the reason)." >>>>>> >>>>>> with the text >>>>>> >>>>>> "Cards CANNOT be issued except by players by announcement. Any >>>>>> attempt >>>>>> to issue a Card is INEFFECTIVE if it does not include (1) the >>>>>> type of >>>>>> card being issued, (2) the name of the person being issued the card >>>>>> (the bad sport), and (3) the specific reason for the issuance of the >>>>>> card, or if it attempts to issue a person a card for an action or >>>>>> inaction which e (more likely than not) did not commit, or if it >>>>>> attempts to issue a card for an action or inaction which is not >>>>>> prohibited by law, or if it attempts to issue a type of card >>>>>> which is >>>>>> blatantly and obviously unsuited to the conduct which constitutes >>>>>> the >>>>>> reason for its issuance or to the person to which it is being >>>>>> issued, >>>>>> or if it is made more than 14 days after the conduct constituting >>>>>> the >>>>>> reason for the issuance of the card, or if it attempts to issue a >>>>>> card >>>>>> to a player who has already been issued a card for the conduct >>>>>> constituting the reason for the issuance of the card." >>>>>> >>>>>> Also in rule 2426, remove the last paragraph. >>>>>> >>>>>> In rule 2479 "Official Justice", remove the last paragraph. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also in rule 2479, replace the text "The Referee CANNOT Point eir >>>>>> Finger or impose Summary Judgment more than five total times per >>>>>> week, >>>>>> or more than twice per week at or on the same person." >>>>>> with the text >>>>>> "The Referee CANNOT impose Summary Judgement more than three times a >>>>>> week". >>>>>> >>>>>> Also in rule 2479, append, at the end of the first paragraph, the >>>>>> text >>>>>> "Summary Judgement is imposed on the Referee's own initiative, >>>>>> and not >>>>>> in response to any official proceeding". >>>>>> >>>>>> In rule 2478, "Vigilante Justice", remove the last paragraph. >>>>>> >>>>>> Also in rule 2478, replace the text " - issuing a Card to the >>>>>> pointed-at person by announcement whose reason is rooted in the >>>>>> allegation; or" >>>>>> with the text >>>>>> " - Imposing the Cold Hand of Justice, issuing a Card to the >>>>>> pointed-at person by announcement whose reason is rooted in the >>>>>> allegation; or" >>>>>> >>>>>> Also in rule 2478, add below the dot-points and above the paragraph >>>>>> beginning "The Referee is by default", add a new paragraph which >>>>>> reads >>>>>> "There is no limit on how many times a player may impose the Cold >>>>>> Hand >>>>>> of Justice per week". >>>>>> >>>>>> Add a new rule at power 1 entitled "Referee Accountability" with the >>>>>> text "If the Referee attempts to issue three or more INEFFECTIVE >>>>>> cards >>>>>> in a week, any player CAN, with two support, issue a writ of >>>>>> Impartial >>>>>> Arbitration Restoration, immediately making the position of Referee >>>>>> vacant. When a writ of Impartial Arbitration Restoration is issued, >>>>>> the ADoP SHALL initiate an election for the Referee within a timely >>>>>> fashion" >>>>>> /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> I vote PRESENT (for now, I might change my vote later once I have >>>>>> time >>>>>> to actually think about what this is saying) >>>>>> >>>>>> On 10/31/2017 4:09 PM, VJ Rada wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ttttpf >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 7:08 AM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.mail-archive.com/agora-business@agoranomic.org/msg30296.html >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 7:07 AM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> COE: There was absolutely a flippin' campaign proposal from me. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Nov 1, 2017 at 1:01 AM, ATMunn <iamingodsa...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> As per my duties as ADoP, I hereby initiate the Agoran >>>>>>>>>> Decision to >>>>>>>>>> select the winner of the Referee election. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the valid >>>>>>>>>> options are the candidates (PRESENT is always a valid vote, >>>>>>>>>> as are >>>>>>>>>> conditionals), and the voting method is instant runoff. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Currently, the candidates are VJ Rada and o. As the election is >>>>>>>>>> contested, any player still may become a candidate until the >>>>>>>>>> poll >>>>>>>>>> ends. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> There were no campaign proposals. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also, I strongly encourage anyone voting on election-related >>>>>>>>>> things to >>>>>>>>>> post your votes in this thread from now on. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Here are all of the current votes (attn: PSS) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Rulekeepor >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> o: {PSS, Alexis, Trigon} >>>>>>>>>> ATMunn: {Alexis, PSS} >>>>>>>>>> Alexis: Conditional ({Alexis, Trigon} if Alexis publishes a FLR >>>>>>>>>> draft >>>>>>>>>> to a forum before the end of the voting period; >>>>>>>>>> {Trigon, >>>>>>>>>> Alexis} >>>>>>>>>> otherwise.) >>>>>>>>>> VJ Rada: {Trigon} >>>>>>>>>> PSS: {PSS, Alexis} >>>>>>>>>> Aris: {Trigon, Alexis} >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Agronomist >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ATMunn: {o} >>>>>>>>>> VJ Rada: PRESENT >>>>>>>>>> PSS: PRESENT >>>>>>>>>> Alexis: {o, VJ Rada} >>>>>>>>>> o: {o, VJ Rada} >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Proposals 7954-7956 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> |7954|7955|7956 >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -------+----+----+----+------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ATMunn |F |A |F | >>>>>>>>>> VJ Rada|F |A |F | >>>>>>>>>> PSS |F |A |F | >>>>>>>>>> Alexis |F |F |F | >>>>>>>>>> o |F |A |F | >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -------+----+----+----+------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> From V.J. Rada >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> From V.J. Rada >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ---- >>>>> Publius Scribonius Scholasticus >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> > > Oh. Well then... > > As per my duties as ADoP, I hereby initiate the Agoran Decision to > select the winner of the Referee election. > > For this decision, the vote collector is the Assessor, the valid > options are the candidates (PRESENT is always a valid vote, as are > conditionals), and the voting method is instant runoff. > > Currently, the candidates are VJ Rada and o. As the election is > contested, any player still may become a candidate until the poll ends. > > I also hereby distribute the below campaign proposal, initiating the > AgoranDecision of whether to adopt it. For this decision, the vote > collector is the Assessor, the quorum is 6.0 and the valid options are > FOR and AGAINST (PRESENT is always a valid vote, as are conditionals). > > Please vote again! > > /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// > Title: Referee Reform and Card Appealability > Author: V.J. Rada > Co-author(s): > Adoption Index: 2 > > > Change the power of rule 2451, Executive Orders, to 2.0. In this rule, > replace the text "The reason for the card MAY be any grievance held by > the Prime Minister" with "Notwithstanding rule 2426, the reason for > the card MAY be any grievance held by the Prime Minister" > > In rule 2426, replace the text > "Cards CANNOT be issued except by players by announcement. Any attempt > to issue a Card, or any intent for a dependent action to issue a Card, > is INEFFECTIVE if it does not include the following information: > > The type of Card being issued, > The person to whom the Card is being issued (the bad sport), and > The specific action, inaction of the bad sport giving rise to the Card > (the reason)." > > with the text > > "Cards CANNOT be issued except by players by announcement. Any attempt > to issue a Card is INEFFECTIVE if it does not include (1) the type of > card being issued, (2) the name of the person being issued the card > (the bad sport), and (3) the specific reason for the issuance of the > card, or if it attempts to issue a person a card for an action or > inaction which e (more likely than not) did not commit, or if it > attempts to issue a card for an action or inaction which is not > prohibited by law, or if it attempts to issue a type of card which is > blatantly and obviously unsuited to the conduct which constitutes the > reason for its issuance or to the person to which it is being issued, > or if it is made more than 14 days after the conduct constituting the > reason for the issuance of the card, or if it attempts to issue a card > to a player who has already been issued a card for the conduct > constituting the reason for the issuance of the card." > > Also in rule 2426, remove the last paragraph. > > In rule 2479 "Official Justice", remove the last paragraph. > > Also in rule 2479, replace the text "The Referee CANNOT Point eir > Finger or impose Summary Judgment more than five total times per week, > or more than twice per week at or on the same person." > with the text > "The Referee CANNOT impose Summary Judgement more than three times a > week". > > Also in rule 2479, append, at the end of the first paragraph, the text > "Summary Judgement is imposed on the Referee's own initiative, and not > in response to any official proceeding". > > In rule 2478, "Vigilante Justice", remove the last paragraph. > > Also in rule 2478, replace the text " - issuing a Card to the > pointed-at person by announcement whose reason is rooted in the > allegation; or" > with the text > " - Imposing the Cold Hand of Justice, issuing a Card to the > pointed-at person by announcement whose reason is rooted in the > allegation; or" > > Also in rule 2478, add below the dot-points and above the paragraph > beginning "The Referee is by default", add a new paragraph which reads > "There is no limit on how many times a player may impose the Cold Hand > of Justice per week". > > Add a new rule at power 1 entitled "Referee Accountability" with the > text "If the Referee attempts to issue three or more INEFFECTIVE cards > in a week, any player CAN, with two support, issue a writ of Impartial > Arbitration Restoration, immediately making the position of Referee > vacant. When a writ of Impartial Arbitration Restoration is issued, > the ADoP SHALL initiate an election for the Referee within a timely > fashion" > /////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////// -- ---- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
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