Why did you bar me and not o?
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Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
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> On Sep 23, 2017, at 2:47 AM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I call a CFJ with the following statement: "The Green card o. issued
> emself in the below message was illegally issued, as the green card e
> issued nichdel was legally issued".
> 
> I think the most natural reading of "that reason" is the act itself,
> not the particular rule breached. That is, someone can be carded twice
> for breaking the same pledge on two totally seperate occasions. There
> is also a question as to the interpretation of the pledge rule itself.
> It says "a pledge is considered broken if...", which may mean that the
> pledge is permanently broken, and cannot be broken more than once.
> 
> I bar Publius and use AP.
> 
> On Sat, Sep 23, 2017 at 4:17 PM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote:
>> On Sep 22, 2017, at 11:45 PM, Nic Evans <nich...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> As for the gerontocracy argument: Money is an inherently gerontocratic
>>> system. It abstracts value from labor in a way that allows arbitrary
>>> allocation.
>>> 
>>> I'm about 95% sure this is the gist of my partner’s argument when she said
>>> “inventing money is _rude_” about the original Shinies proposal.
>>> 
>>> I’m not sure I fully appreciated Spending Power while we had it. The debate
>>> and adoption predates me. I’ve long had a fascination with throughput-based
>>> monetary systems like Total Annihilation’s metal economy, where the driving
>>> numbers are the amount of money in per time, not the amount of money in the
>>> pile, and SP is as close as I’ve ever seen to that in a political system.
>> 
>> On Sep 23, 2017, at 12:30 AM, VJ Rada <vijar...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> I point the finger at nichdel. He replied to CB in discussion again.
>> 
>> As recently discussed, this is over a pledge under rule 2450, made by 
>> nichdel, which reads:
>> 
>>> I pledge to not acknowledge any messages Cuddle Beam sends to a-d, or to 
>>> respond in a-d to anything CB does.
>> 
>> This pledge was previously broken, and punishment for that breach issued 
>> from this office on Sep 20, 2017, at 1:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time.
>> 
>> The message quoted above is, indeed, in response to a message from 
>> Cuddlebeam, and violates the above-quoted pledge. Issuing a second card for 
>> the same pledge appears to violate rule 2426, which reads in part:
>> 
>>> A person SHALL NOT issue a Card unless:
>>> 
>>> …
>>> 
>>> * there has not already been a Card issued for that reason; and
>> 
>> Therefore, as issuing a card would be ILLEGAL, I find this finger-pointing 
>> to be Shenanigans.
>> 
>> I issue nichdel a green card by summary judgement, as required by rule 2478, 
>> for violating rule 2450.
>> 
>> I issue myself a green card by summary judgement for violating rule 2426, as 
>> cited above.
>> 
>> I’ll note that I’ve now issued nichdel a card by summary judgement twice in 
>> a week, and myself a card twice in a week. It is no longer possible for me 
>> to card either of us for the remainder of the week, rules requiring me to do 
>> so notwithstanding.
>> 
>> -o
>> 
> 
> 
> 
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> From V.J. Rada

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