Oh well... On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:49 PM, Nic Evans <nich...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 09/15/17 16:33, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > I believe it's a matter of difference between how we use language in > common use and it's literal interpretation. For that case, for example: > > X: "You can only do that if I say so.", where "so" means X would mean > that the kid can do it, even if that wasn't the intent of the message. > > Quibbles, really. > > > "You can do x if I say so" and "you can do x if I say 'so'" are > unambiguously different in writing. You even had to put 'so' in scare > quotes during your own argumentation. > > I put a finger at myself for breaking a pledge. > > > > On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:27 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> > wrote: > >> >> >> A more direct example: >> >> I say: "You can only do that if I say so." >> >> My kid says: "You just said so!" >> >> That's the logic of a first grader, but it's not actually how >> conditionals work >> in common English. >> >> On Fri, 15 Sep 2017, Cuddle Beam wrote: >> > True but my argument was this: >> > We got >> > A: "CAN Y if X is true" >> > where X is: >> > X: "CAN Y exists as text" (for. "doing so is specified by a rule", >> where "so" is "The Treasuror CAN cause Agora to pay any player or >> organization by announcement". " is specified by a rule" is pretty much >> > "exists as text" because all rules are specifications of something. If >> they weren't specifying anything they would be pretty useless, annoying >> rules lol like aeijqwornjqwhwquiejh qwuih qiuwq ui.) >> > >> > So A is basically: "CAN Y if "CAN Y exists as text" is true". Since CAN >> Y does exist as text, then we can CAN Y. >> > >> > On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:14 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> >> wrote: >> > >> > >> > The statement "CAN Y if X is true" doesn't make X true. >> > >> > On Fri, 15 Sep 2017, Cuddle Beam wrote: >> > >> > > I create the following proposal and pend it with AP: >> > > >> > > -----+----- >> > > >> > > Title: Anti-Treasuror Omnipotence >> > > AI: 3 >> > > Content: >> > > >> > > Amend "The Treasuror CAN cause Agora to pay any player or >> organization by announcement if doing so is specified by a rule." >> > > >> > > to >> > > >> > > "The Treasuror CAN cause Agora to pay any player by >> announcement if doing so is specified by a rule other than this rule." >> > > >> > > -----+----- >> > > >> > > You see: >> > > - Organizations don't exist anymore, they got repealed by >> "Better Accounting". Removing that. >> > > - "doing so" is specified by the sentence itself where that's >> in (any description is a specification of itself), so adding "by a rule >> other than this rule" to avoid that. >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >
