Right, but the actual effect of the rule clause is based on the common use, and not on the absurd-literal that even my first-grader knew was being "funny".
On Fri, 15 Sep 2017, Cuddle Beam wrote: > I believe it's a matter of difference between how we use language in common > use and it's literal interpretation. For that case, for example: > X: "You can only do that if I say so.", where "so" means X would mean that > the kid can do it, even if that wasn't the intent of the message. > > Quibbles, really. > > On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:27 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > > A more direct example: > > I say: "You can only do that if I say so." > > My kid says: "You just said so!" > > That's the logic of a first grader, but it's not actually how > conditionals work > in common English. > > On Fri, 15 Sep 2017, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > True but my argument was this: > > We got > > A: "CAN Y if X is true" > > where X is: > > X: "CAN Y exists as text" (for. "doing so is specified by a rule", > where "so" is "The Treasuror CAN cause Agora to pay any player or > organization by announcement". " is specified by a rule" is > pretty much > > "exists as text" because all rules are specifications of something. > If they weren't specifying anything they would be pretty useless, annoying > rules lol like aeijqwornjqwhwquiejh qwuih qiuwq ui.) > > > > So A is basically: "CAN Y if "CAN Y exists as text" is true". Since > CAN Y does exist as text, then we can CAN Y. > > > > On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:14 PM, Kerim Aydin > <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > > > > > The statement "CAN Y if X is true" doesn't make X true. > > > > On Fri, 15 Sep 2017, Cuddle Beam wrote: > > > > > I create the following proposal and pend it with AP: > > > > > > -----+----- > > > > > > Title: Anti-Treasuror Omnipotence > > > AI: 3 > > > Content: > > > > > > Amend "The Treasuror CAN cause Agora to pay any player or > organization by announcement if doing so is specified by a rule." > > > > > > to > > > > > > "The Treasuror CAN cause Agora to pay any player by > announcement if doing so is specified by a rule other than this rule." > > > > > > -----+----- > > > > > > You see: > > > - Organizations don't exist anymore, they got repealed by > "Better Accounting". Removing that. > > > - "doing so" is specified by the sentence itself where that's > in (any description is a specification of itself), so adding "by a rule other > than this rule" to avoid that. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
