I believe it's a matter of difference between how we use language in common
use and it's literal interpretation. For that case, for example:

X: "You can only do that if I say so.", where "so" means X would mean that
the kid can do it, even if that wasn't the intent of the message.

Quibbles, really.

On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:27 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu>
wrote:

>
>
> A more direct example:
>
> I say:  "You can only do that if I say so."
>
> My kid says:  "You just said so!"
>
> That's the logic of a first grader, but it's not actually how conditionals
> work
> in common English.
>
> On Fri, 15 Sep 2017, Cuddle Beam wrote:
> > True but my argument was this:
> > We got
> > A: "CAN Y if X is true"
> > where X is:
> > X: "CAN Y exists as text" (for. "doing so is specified by a rule", where
> "so" is "The Treasuror CAN cause Agora to pay any player or organization by
> announcement". " is specified by a rule" is pretty much
> > "exists as text" because all rules are specifications of something. If
> they weren't specifying anything they would be pretty useless, annoying
> rules lol like aeijqwornjqwhwquiejh qwuih qiuwq ui.)
> >
> > So A is basically: "CAN Y if "CAN Y exists as text" is true". Since CAN
> Y does exist as text, then we can CAN Y.
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 15, 2017 at 11:14 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu>
> wrote:
> >
> >
> >       The statement "CAN Y if X is true" doesn't make X true.
> >
> >       On Fri, 15 Sep 2017, Cuddle Beam wrote:
> >
> >       > I create the following proposal and pend it with AP:
> >       >
> >       > -----+-----
> >       >
> >       > Title: Anti-Treasuror Omnipotence
> >       > AI: 3
> >       > Content:
> >       >
> >       > Amend "The Treasuror CAN cause Agora to pay any player or
> organization by announcement if doing so is specified by a rule."
> >       >
> >       > to
> >       >
> >       > "The Treasuror CAN cause Agora to pay any player by announcement
> if doing so is specified by a rule other than this rule."
> >       >
> >       > -----+-----
> >       >
> >       > You see:
> >       > - Organizations don't exist anymore, they got repealed by
> "Better Accounting". Removing that.
> >       > - "doing so" is specified by the sentence itself where that's in
> (any description is a specification of itself), so adding "by a rule other
> than this rule" to avoid that.
> >       >
> >       >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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