> On Sep 8, 2017, at 12:15 AM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Sep 7, 2017, at 11:58 PM, Kyle Anderson <kyescott5...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I hate to be annoying, but will someone explain to me what just happened 
>> with stamps? I've read through the posts, but I'm confused at why they no 
>> longer exist. I thought that the scam did not succeed, though I'm not 
>> entirely sure why. Did the scam work?
>> 
>> Sorry, just trying to wrap my head around this. There's a lot to follow 
>> tonight.
>> 
>> K
> 
> I hold that neither CuddleBeam’s scams, nor Gaelan’s scam, worked. 
> Furthermore, there may not be any stamps at all.
> 
> The rule “Mother, May I?” defines several terms. Key for unpicking this 
> situation are the terms “CAN” and “MAY”. A rule stating that something CAN be 
> done defines a mechanism for doing it. A rule saying that something MAY be 
> done prevents the doing of a thing from drawing a penalty. This distinction 
> has gone wrong several times.
> 
> The rule “Economic Victory” defines stamps, and states that several things 
> MAY be done, but does not state that those things CAN be done. The rule 
> “Regulated Actions” is phrased in such a way that a CAN would be required for 
> those actions to be possible. One of the things that the rule states MAY be 
> done is the destruction, by announcement, of any stamp, with Agora paying the 
> announcing player the current Stamp Value. Had MAY been CAN, this rule would 
> have allowed Gaelan to sequentially destroy stamps and harvest their value, 
> regardless of who owned the stamps.

Oh, and:

Nobody who noticed this flaw in the wording of the rules chose to remark on it 
- I think out of sportsagoranship, since the intent of the rules regarding 
stamps is pretty clear - which allowed several “impossible” actions to be 
treated as if they happened for long enough for the results to become true 
through self-ratifying reports.

-o

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