I got it. A Death Row, or some mechanic that puts the harsher punishments
on a delay (In X days, the card takes effect), so even if it is scammable,
we'll have time to counter it with a proposal or something so that its not
fait accompli.



On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 1:20 AM, Cuddle Beam <[email protected]> wrote:

> If any "formal" mechanic can be scammed, I don't see how we could punish
> someone at all via them then.
>
> The only other solution I see is that the really strong cards are issued
> at discretion of some single person or some democratic process. Town Jury?
> Its logistics could be annoying though. hrm.
>
> On Tue, Sep 5, 2017 at 1:00 AM, Aris Merchant <thoughtsoflifeandlight17@
> gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Sep 4, 2017 at 3:49 PM, Alex Smith <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>> > On Mon, 2017-09-04 at 15:05 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote:
>> >> I'm currently working on that unified contracts/orgs/agencies
>> >> implementation I was talking about. I want non-player persons to be
>> >> able to join contracts, which necessitates some penalty for breaches.
>> >> This would also incidentally also fix that thing where G. couldn't be
>> >> punished for publishing a false report because e wasn't a player. To
>> >> understand what is meant by "persons who play the game" see CFJ 1709.
>> >> Of course, most existing punishments are meaningless for non-players,
>> >> so I had to come up with something. This proposal adds a new card,
>> >> called a Black Card, which, upon activation, prevents the bad sport
>> >> from registering or taking any game actions for 30 days.
>> >
>> > You need to be very very careful with this sort of mechanic, because if
>> > there's any way to award such a card via scam, it can lead to one
>> > player locking out all the others and gaining a dictatorship over time
>> > (it'd just take four days in this case; attempt to Ratify Without
>> > Objection a blatantly false statement that gives you an advantage, and
>> > use Black Cards to lock everyone else out of objecting).
>> >
>> > I'd rather the mechanic were designed in such a way that even if
>> > scammed, other players could still overcome the restrictions it imposes
>> > somehow.
>>
>> There are already some fairly strong restrictions on how many cards
>> the referee can issue per week. Still, this could be a problem. How's
>> this addition:
>>
>> "A Black Card CANNOT be issued to current players, and no more than 3
>> Black Cards
>>   CAN be issued per week. Any attempt to issue a Black Card in violation
>>   of these limitations is INEFFECTIVE."
>>
>> -Aris
>>
>> P.S. Can someone come up with a better name for Levying a Fine?
>>
>> -Aris
>>
>
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