I would recommend lowering it to one month and see how that goes. ---- Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com
> On Jul 22, 2017, at 2:44 PM, Aris Merchant > <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > It's currently at 90 days (Rule 2457). > > -Aris > > > On Sat, Jul 22, 2017 at 10:54 AM, Owen Jacobson <o...@grimoire.ca> wrote: >> I’d be in favour of reducing it from a month to a week or two. I’m >> especially sympathetic to your case, as your original action that lead to >> your bankruptcy could easily have been entirely ineffective, and therefore >> harmless. >> >> -o >> >> On Jul 22, 2017, at 11:39 AM, Quazie <quazieno...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> While you're at it - bankruptcy sucks - being unable to work at all with >> organizations for long periods of time is a pretty intense punishment. >> >> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 14:58 Nic Evans <nich...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> If I can, I withdraw the proposal "Less Strict Faking". Thank you and >>> sorry to anyone who lost shinies pending it. (Especially since I >>> realized I had 5 shinies after I asked people to pend it.) >>> >>> I'm currently rethinking not only this but the entire criminal justice >>> proposal. I do believe we need robust systems to deal with disruption, >>> that explicit reprimand is a useful tool, and that ameliorative >>> intervention (like tort law) is productive. But I question the >>> effectiveness of the current Card system, and I worry about the >>> direction of my own proposal; a complex criminal system surely wouldn't >>> look welcoming to newcomers, and might cause as much grief as it intends >>> to solve. Maybe I've taken a dark turn there. >>> >>> I think that Justice, in general, can use three tools: Punishment, >>> Rehabilitation, and Remedy. I think the first is the easiest to jump to >>> but also the least useful. Exclusionary punishment (limiting voting >>> power, CFJs, and even banishment) can prevent specific attacks but does >>> little to decrease the malice of an aggravated person and frequently >>> alienates the simply belligerent. >>> >>> Rehabilitation already exists in the current system, and I think all of >>> us have been pleasantly surprised at its success: Apologies. Maybe a >>> future criminal system should focus more closely on this. Maybe ALL >>> punishments should be reducable with Rehabilitory steps. >>> >>> Remedy is essentially all of tort law, and doesn't currently exist. If >>> we continue with pledges, orgs, and assets we definitely need it. But >>> like Punishment, it does little to enlighten or improve the mood of the >>> offender, and should be used when it helps to provide an overall sense >>> of fairness to the community. >>> >>> >>> On 07/13/17 15:37, Nic Evans wrote: >>>> I submit the following proposal: >>>> >>>> Title: Less Strict Faking >>>> AI: 1 >>>> Author: nichdel >>>> Co-authors: >>>> >>>> Amend R2471 (No Faking) to read: >>>> >>>> A person SHALL NOT attempt to perform an action which e does not believe >>>> to be possible so as to deceive others. >>>> >>> >>> >>
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