On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 5:07 PM Aris Merchant <
thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 4:59 PM grok (caleb vines) <grokag...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On May 30, 2017 6:25 PM, "Quazie" <quazieno...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 4:20 PM Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, 30 May 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>> > I'll let ais523 comment on whether the 2-day bit is a bother at all.
>>>
>>> (final?) followup:  I still disagree with the wide/narrow judging idea
>>> (both on the principle and as a 'too much work for officer' grounds).
>>>
>>> We purposefully built a lot of flexibility into the Arbitor's
>>> assignment method (saying "reasonably equal opportunities to judge"
>>> rather than mandating rotations, randomness, or anything else).
>>> omd and I actually had a contested election a couple years back with
>>> contrasting assignment policies.  "Favoring" as used now is wholly
>>> Arbitor's discretion.  Point being:  this is the kind of thing an
>>> Arbitor should be able to form adaptive policies for or make an
>>> election matter, rather than mandating a switching system.
>>>
>>
>> NOTE: I gently miss the standing court where you could manipulate the
>> system into ensuring you got a favorable judge.
>>
>> That required a pretty dedicated CotC, and a low quantity of CFJs (and
>> other judgements) to make happen.
>>
>> I fully agree to G.'s points though - We can't make judging any more work
>> on ais at all right now - e's doing us a service, and, right now, it's
>> super important.  E should be the one to dictate what work we're putting on
>> em, not us.  If the judiciary calms down, or we get lucky enough that G.
>> comes back and wants eir post (or really anyone truly decides that they
>> want the post) then we can add more switches and whistles, but we aren't
>> there - so let's not do that.
>>
>> I think we do need some judicial reform, but reform as to what Judges CAN
>> do, not what the officers SHALL do.
>>
>> Personally I believe in:
>> Dismissals due to 'IGNORANCE' (Not any arguments/evidence), and
>> 'INCOMPETENCE' (No game relevancy: e.g. "I CFJ on `Quazie is currently
>> eating a sandwich`")
>>
>> Judge Recusals (with the potential to give the case to a non-barred
>> judge) - but the recusal must come with reasoning.
>>
>> And lots of the other things G. mentioned earlier in this thread.
>>
>>
>> A minor suggestion from an observer: you could use slightly kinder
>> language on those dismissal ideas. Like DISMISSED WITHOUT STANDING if a CFJ
>> has no apparent or impending impact on the game state, and DISMISSED
>> WITHOUT EVIDENCE if the caller or another player do not provide enough
>> evidence or argument to adjudicate.
>>
>> Although if there was a dismissal due to lack of evidence, I would think
>> a public defender role (or office) would probably make CFJs a little more
>> robust.
>>
>>
>> -grok
>>
>
> I like this public defender idea, and would be happy to stand for the
> role. Finally an interesting position without exessive paperwork! I also
> like the idea of mandatory tags for certain emails. I think we would want
> tags for proposals, pends, and votes. I'll have more thoughts on that later.
>

> -Aris
>

I may have been a little too enthusiastic there. I definitely think it's a
good idea. However, my willingness to stand for the office depends on a
bunch of factors, such as the scope of the responsibilities and how busy I
am and the like.

-Aris

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