I think normal threading handles voting fine (and subject changes may break 
threads, making more of a mess). I agree about tagging the others. 

Gaelan

> On May 30, 2017, at 5:07 PM, Aris Merchant 
> <thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 4:59 PM grok (caleb vines) <grokag...@gmail.com> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> On May 30, 2017 6:25 PM, "Quazie" <quazieno...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> On Tue, May 30, 2017 at 4:20 PM Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 30 May 2017, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>> > I'll let ais523 comment on whether the 2-day bit is a bother at all.
>>> 
>>> (final?) followup:  I still disagree with the wide/narrow judging idea
>>> (both on the principle and as a 'too much work for officer' grounds).
>>> 
>>> We purposefully built a lot of flexibility into the Arbitor's
>>> assignment method (saying "reasonably equal opportunities to judge"
>>> rather than mandating rotations, randomness, or anything else).
>>> omd and I actually had a contested election a couple years back with
>>> contrasting assignment policies.  "Favoring" as used now is wholly
>>> Arbitor's discretion.  Point being:  this is the kind of thing an
>>> Arbitor should be able to form adaptive policies for or make an
>>> election matter, rather than mandating a switching system.
>> 
>> NOTE: I gently miss the standing court where you could manipulate the system 
>> into ensuring you got a favorable judge.
>> 
>> That required a pretty dedicated CotC, and a low quantity of CFJs (and other 
>> judgements) to make happen.
>> 
>> I fully agree to G.'s points though - We can't make judging any more work on 
>> ais at all right now - e's doing us a service, and, right now, it's super 
>> important.  E should be the one to dictate what work we're putting on em, 
>> not us.  If the judiciary calms down, or we get lucky enough that G. comes 
>> back and wants eir post (or really anyone truly decides that they want the 
>> post) then we can add more switches and whistles, but we aren't there - so 
>> let's not do that.
>> 
>> I think we do need some judicial reform, but reform as to what Judges CAN 
>> do, not what the officers SHALL do. 
>> 
>> Personally I believe in: 
>> Dismissals due to 'IGNORANCE' (Not any arguments/evidence), and 
>> 'INCOMPETENCE' (No game relevancy: e.g. "I CFJ on `Quazie is currently 
>> eating a sandwich`")
>> 
>> Judge Recusals (with the potential to give the case to a non-barred judge) - 
>> but the recusal must come with reasoning.
>> 
>> And lots of the other things G. mentioned earlier in this thread.
>> 
>> A minor suggestion from an observer: you could use slightly kinder language 
>> on those dismissal ideas. Like DISMISSED WITHOUT STANDING if a CFJ has no 
>> apparent or impending impact on the game state, and DISMISSED WITHOUT 
>> EVIDENCE if the caller or another player do not provide enough evidence or 
>> argument to adjudicate.
>> 
>> Although if there was a dismissal due to lack of evidence, I would think a 
>> public defender role (or office) would probably make CFJs a little more 
>> robust.
>> 
>> 
>> -grok
> 
> I like this public defender idea, and would be happy to stand for the role. 
> Finally an interesting position without exessive paperwork! I also like the 
> idea of mandatory tags for certain emails. I think we would want tags for 
> proposals, pends, and votes. I'll have more thoughts on that later.
> 
> -Aris

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