On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > On Tue, 1 Feb 2011, omd wrote: >> On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 4:41 PM, omd <c.ome...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Past only. future clearly not included. >> > >> > The future is certainly "needed to interpret its current and future >> > behavior". >> >> Or, to use your other quote, it must be in the state if the state >> "describes enough about the system to determine its future behaviour." > > Yes, but you don't use that future information until you get to it, at > which time it's the present.
I think it's simpler. Does the gamestate (as a tracked value that can be examined and modified, like your proposal did) describe enough about the system (Agora) to determine its future behavior? If so, it includes future real-live events, and is thus indeterminate. If not, that particular definition of state can't apply.