On Tue, 1 Feb 2011, omd wrote: > On Tue, Feb 1, 2011 at 11:36 AM, Kerim Aydin <ke...@u.washington.edu> wrote: > > Without definition, gamestate is the whole game as of now. Anything needed > > to interpret its current and future behavior is part of that state. > > If that's true, the state also includes, say, the content of every > message that will ever be sent in the future
Past only. future clearly not included. > ; or even the entire state > of the universe, as a rule could hypothetically be enacted that refers > to whether I was wearing a hat last Friday. Or a rule could be enacted that required, say, reading a certain telephone directory. You never know. But until said rule is enacted, such a thing is IRRELEVANT, which is a nice dividing line. > I think it's more reasonable to say that Agora is not a closed system, > but one that interacts with its environment-- in physics terms, at > least; I guess in math terms that makes it not a system at all. Sure, it's called a leaky system (sometimes called a dissipative system). Anyway, a more common sense approach is that, in the absence of defining terms, it includes "past and currently regulated and not IRRELEVANT" facts which includes the datestamps and fora-of-receipt of past public messages (regulated due to publicity rules). -G.