Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Tue, Sep 23, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Jeff Weston (Sir Toby) > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I CFJ on the following statement: The message sent by "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >> on "Tue, 16 Sep 2008 20:16:23 +0000" (see evidence 1) was successful in >> initiating a CFJ. >> >> I argue for a FALSE judgement in this case. The statement in the message >> is clearly an inquiry case. Rule 591 (see evidence 2) governs inquiry >> cases. In Rule 591, we see that, "the initiator is unqualified to be >> assigned as judge of the case." >> >> The message in question clearly does not indicate who sent the message. >> Without knowing who sent the message, there is no way to ensure that the >> initiator is unqualified to be assigned as judge of the case. For all we >> know, Sir Toby was the sender of the message. Since he was assigned as >> judge of the resulting CFJ, it is possible that he was illegally >> assigned as judge to that CFJ. > > I don't think it follows that since the assignment of the CFJ might > have been illegal that the CFJ could not have been initiated at all; > CotC Murphy certainly knows whether e sent the message purporting to > initiate the CFJ emself, so it definitely wasn't impossible that e > could assign it to a player e knew didn't send it. Of course, in this > case if e didn't send the message than e didn't assign it to someone e > could be absolutely sure didn't send it, but the CotC's actions after > a CFJ has been initiated shouldn't be retroactively relevant to > whether it was initiated in the first place. > > And, of course, when Murphy attempted to assign the case to you, you > knew for sure whether that assignment was possible; the fact that you > claimed to assign a judgment to the case should be taken as evidence > that you believed to be assigned to judge it. Of course, since we > don't have a truthiness rule anymore it's not actually against the > rules for you to claim to assign judgment to a case you don't believe > you're the judge of.
I have issued one CFJ regarding whether or not the CFJ in question was even initiated and I intend to issue another CFJ regarding the legality of assigning someone to judge the CFJ. I issued a judgement to the CFJ in question because I am obligated to do so under the rules, and I wanted to make sure I fulfilled my duty in the event that it is ruled that the CFJ was indeed initiated and I was legally assigned to judge it. I will neither confirm nor deny that I sent any of the messages from "[EMAIL PROTECTED]". -- Jeff Weston (Sir Toby) PGP public key available from http://pgp.mit.edu/ PGP Key ID: 0x14B456ED
